> Would you consider drudgery the in-depth thinking that's required to actually go and write that algorithm, think out all the data ownership relationships, name the variables, think the edge cases for the tests?

For 99% of the functions I've written in my life? Absolutely drudgery. They're barely algorithms. Just bog-standard data transformation. This is what I love having AI replace.

For the other 1% that actually requires original thought, truly clever optimization, and smart naming to make it literate? Yes, I'll still be doing that by hand, although I'll probably be getting the LLM to help scaffold all the unit tests and check for any subtle bugs or edge cases I may have missed.

The point is, LLMs let me spend more time at the higher level of abstraction that is more productive. It's not taking it away!

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tatjam 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I do agree with this, and in fact I do often use LLMs for for these tasks! I guess my message is more intended towards vibe-only coders (and, I guess, the non-technical higher ups drooling at the idea of never having to hire another developer).

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icedchai an hour ago | parent [-]

I see junior PM types glowing about being able to lead teams of agents, doing their bidding without putting up a fuss or argument. Short term, developers are in for a world of hurt. Long term, we're going to need a lot more to clean this crap up.

	▲	stoneforger 21 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Noone will clean it up, it's a societal problem. The koolaid is produce more, like we need another app for X . We are celebrating owning nothing, as a liberating act. People hate mental load yes, this is the perfect drug. You don't need to think or challenge anything. If the model says it's okay, it's okay. Local models will never be able to democratise this. People will do as they are told, and another generation of consumers will follow. The matrix won't be a prison, it will be a prompt from birth to death. And y'all clapping cause you can have X number of agents running around burning tokens like kids looking at the fire cracker on their hand about to blow up, giggling. The world was always mad, and this is proof it will always be mad while people are still around.