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bojan 4 hours ago

I agree with you, and share the experience. Something changed recently for me as well, where I found the mode to actually get value from these things. I find it refreshing that I don't have to write boilerplate myself or think about the exact syntax of the framework I use. I get to think about the part that adds value.

I also have the same experience where we rejected a SAP offering with the idea to build the same thing in-house.

But... aside from the obvious fact that building a thing is easier than using and maintaining the thing, the question arose if we even need what SAP offered, or if we get agents to do it.

In your example, do you actually need that simple CRM or maybe you can get agents to do the thing without any other additional software?

I don't know what this means for our jobs. I do know that, if making software becomes so trivial for everyone, companies will have to find another way to differentiate and compete. And hopefully that's where knowledge workers come in again.

democracy 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Oh please, SAP doesn't exist only because writing software is not free or cheap

r_lee 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Exactly. I hear this "wow finally I can just let Claude work on a ticket while I get coffee!" stuff and it makes me wonder why none of these people feel threatened in any way?

And if you can be so productive, then where exactly do we need this surplus productivity in software right now when were no longer in the "digital transformation" phase?

dasil003 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't feel threatened because no matter how tools, platforms and languages improved, no matter how much faster I could produce and distribute working applications, there has never been a shortage of higher level problems to solve.

Now if the only thing I was doing was writing code to a specification written by someone else, then I would be scared, but in my quarter century career that has never been the case. Even at my first job as a junior web developer before graduating college, there was always a conversation with stakeholders and I always had input on what was being built. I get that not every programmer had that experience, but to me that's always been the majority of the value that software developers bring, the code itself is just an implementation detail.

I can't say that I won't miss hand-crafting all the code, there certainly was something meditative about it, but I'm sure some of the original ENIAC programmers felt the same way about plugging in cables to make circuits. The world of tech moves fast, and nostalgia doesn't pay the bills.

vitaflo 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Smart devs know this is the beginning of the end of high paying dev work. Once the LLM's get really good, most dev work will go to the lowest bidder. Just like factory work did 30 years ago.

falloutx 36 minutes ago | parent [-]

Then whats the smart dev plan, sit on the vibe coding casino until the bossman calls you into the office?

democracy 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

Exactly, it will be a CodeUber, we just pick the task from the app and deliver the results ))

falloutx 2 minutes ago | parent [-]

I thought AI would already automate that part, I expect to actually just drive an actual uber