That is obviously not true. You don’t even define what a welfare state is or when a country stops being a welfare state.

Care to explain what amount of taxes would support the current welfare state in combination with the open borders for illegals?

	▲	victorbjorklund 10 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Let’s take Poland. They are a welfare state. They don’t have open borders for illegals. Not sure what you are talking about. Let me guess you are American who never set foot in Poland and just assume it has open borders?

Can you define it then? What point does it start and what point does it stop being a welfare state.

	▲	victorbjorklund 11 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		It is a very abstract term. It is like ”democracy”. Yes, you can clearly say that North Korea is not a democracy. But US? Well, depends on who you ask. Same with welfare state. Which countries do you count as non-welfare states? And when do they stop being a welfare state? Let’s take Poland as an example. When do they stop being a welfare state? If they lower the unemployment payments, will they stop being a welfare state? And at what timescale do you think Poland will stop existing because of demographics?