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chongli 16 hours ago

It's not an issue of permission, it's an issue of trying to make a computer that's safe for grandma to use. Criminals can and will convince grandma to navigate a byzantine labyrinth of prompts and technical measures in order to drain her bank account. That's the threat model we're dealing with here.

nkrisc 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

At a certain point you have to let adults be adults and make adult mistakes.

ceejayoz an hour ago | parent [-]

Tried that. Didn’t go great.

wtetzner 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is that really true though? It kinda just feels like a way to force people to have to pay $100 per year, own Apple hardware, etc.

chongli 5 hours ago | parent [-]

How else are you going to have the ability to revoke malware’s signing keys to get it to stop running on every machine immediately?

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lokar 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think a time-lock feature to enable “I know what I’m doing mode” for a year, after a 48h delay would be ok.

Or something like that

miki123211 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I like Chrome OS's approach where you essentially choose your security level at initial setup, and need to wipe your machine if you wish to change it.

fc417fc802 5 hours ago | parent [-]

But what if a scammer walks grandma through backing everything up, unlocking the machine, installing a rootkit, and then restoring from backup? /s

(Joke is on you. You thought you'd be given access to app data to back it up? That's against the security model.)

Gud 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No, that would still suck.

anthk 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Any inmutable distro with Flatpak will solve this forever. No need to restrict anything.

Der_Einzige 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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fsiefken 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I helped my mother out with a computer, gave her a mac after she called twic a wee about a windows popup. Eventually she became a grandmother, and later in old age, with dementia she stlll using the mac more or less successfully to google and e-mail. Intentionality, coordination are important for keeping cognitive faculty. It all sounds so easy, but letting her send e-mail through voice could create confusing situations.

skeltoac 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We are all creeping toward old age. Let’s be kind to our future selves.

chongli 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Who's to say the criminals won't use a genAI agent to call grandma and social-engineer her so they can drain her bank account?

apothegm 14 hours ago | parent [-]

They pretty much already are.

lostlogin 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This attitude is worse than Apple’s.

Gud 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No thanks.

anthk 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Apple is the personified Enshitification among Microsoft.