Aren't they still using safety drivers or safety follow cars and in fewer cities? Seems Tesla is pretty far behind.

What do you think I said that you're contradicting?

IMO the presence of safety chase vehicles is just a sensible "as low as reasonably achievable" measure during the early rollout. I'm not sure that can (fairly) be used as a point against them.

I'm comfortably with Tesla sparing no expense for safety, since I think we all (including Tesla) understand that this isn't the ultimate implementation. In fact, I think it would be a scandal if Tesla failed to do exactly that.

Damned if you do and damned if you don't, apparently.

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tapoxi 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't know if Tesla claiming they're doing something carries weight anymore.

	▲	schiffern 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Setting aside the anti-Tesla bias, none of what I said relies on Tesla claims. The "chase vehicle" claims are all based on third-party accounts from actual rideshare customers.

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Mawr an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> IMO the presence of safety chase vehicles is just a sensible "as low as reasonably achievable" measure during the early rollout. I'm not sure that can (fairly) be used as a point against them.

Only if you're comparing them to another company, which you seem to be. So yes, yes it can.

Seriously, the amount of sheer cope here is insane. Waymo is doing the thing. Tesla is not. If Tesla were capable of doing it, they would be. But they're not.

It really is as simple as that and no amount of random facts you may bring up will change the reality. Waymo is doing the thing.