How is it YIYBY if they can’t force the town to sell the land? They can lobby until they are blue in the face, but they can’t really accomplish anything.

You are the one who said the town owns the land. If they own the land, it looks like the voters are safe—nothing should happen.

You are the one who built the strawman by inventing a public forest under threat from lobbyists. I was just showing that this strawman was an illusion.

I believe that NIMBYs often try to do a motte and bailey argument where they make it seem like someone is literally going to force property owners to build something, when in reality they are trying to prevent property owners from using their property as they want. That really gets my goat, because it’s dishonest.