| ▲ | mgaunard 6 hours ago |
| Still needs to be trained on the final boss: dense cities with narrow streets. |
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| ▲ | reluctant_dev 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| San Francisco isn't uniformly dense and narrow, but it does have both, and it's run remarkably well so far. |
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| ▲ | elliotec 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Another comment mentioned the Philippines as the manifest frontier. SF is not on the same plane of reality in terms of density or narrow streets as PH, I would argue in comparison it does not have both. | |
| ▲ | smallmancontrov 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This is the craziest I've seen, but it was 10 months ago which is ~10 years in AI years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWz1TD-VZg | |
| ▲ | fragmede 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | On that specific count, not really. There's a skate park north end of the Mission, and Stevenson St is a two way road that borders it, but it's narrow enough that you need to drive up on the curb to get two vehicles side by side on the street. Waymo's can't handle that on a regular basis. Being San Francisco and not London, you can just skip that road, but if you find yourself in a Waymo on that street and are unlucky to have other traffic on it, the Waymo will just have to back up the entire street. Hope there's no one behind you as well as in front of you! Anyway, we'll see how the London rollout goes, but I get the impression London's got a lot more of those kinds of roads. | | |
| ▲ | rootusrootus 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Stevenson St is a two way road That is extremely narrow, I wonder why the city has not designated it as a one-way street? They've done that for other similarly narrow sections of the same street farther north. |
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| ▲ | xnx 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What would be an example city? Waymo just announced they're ramping up in Boston: https://waymo.com/blog/?modal=short-back-to-boston "we’re excited to continue effectively adapting to Boston’s cobblestones, narrow alleyways, roundabouts and turnpikes." |
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| ▲ | pants2 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Any small city in Italy is going to be 10X more challenging than Boston | | |
| ▲ | threetonesun 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Depends, which is harder: a narrow street or a three lane one with no obvious lane markers with people double parking? | |
| ▲ | chasd00 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | the absolute chaos of Paris would also be challenging. | |
| ▲ | micromacrofoot 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | and the failure mode for some of them are steep drops off of cliffs |
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| ▲ | zhengyi13 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Various European cities come to mind: Narrow streets are something of a trope in certain movies/genres. | | |
| ▲ | jkaptur 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | To be fair, many of those films do not portray human drivers in the best light. |
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| ▲ | ginko 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Not grandparent but I was rather thinking of medieval city centers in Italy or Spain. edit: Case in point: https://maps.app.goo.gl/xxYQWHrzSMES8HPL8 This is an alley in Coimbra, Portugal. A couple years ago I stayed at a hotel in this very street and took a cab from the train station. The driver could have stopped in the praça below and told me to walk 15m up. Instead the guy went all the way up then curved through 5-10 alleys like that to drop me off right right in front of my place. At a significant speed as well. It was one of the craziest car rides I've ever experienced. | | |
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| ▲ | breckinloggins 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I live in such an area. The route to my house involves steep topography via small windy streets that are very narrow and effectively one-way due to parked cars. Human drivers routinely do worse than Waymo, which I take 2 or 3 times a week. Is it perfect? No. Does it handle the situation better than most Lyft or Uber drivers? Yes. As a bonus: unlike some of those drivers the Waymo doesn't get palpably angry at me for driving the route. |
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| ▲ | dandaka 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Yes, something like Ho Chi Minh or Mumbai in a peak hour! With lots of bike riders, pedestrians, and livestock at the same roundabout. |
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| ▲ | throwaway_20357 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Like London? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvctCbVEvwQ |
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| ▲ | pja 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Waymo cars are driving around London right now. Not taking paying passengers yet though! |
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| ▲ | chpatrick 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They're being trialled in London right now. |
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| ▲ | seydor 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Napoli |
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| ▲ | kylehotchkiss 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Old Delhi is the the final boss. |
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| ▲ | renewiltord 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Does it, though? Maybe Dhaka will never get Waymo. The same way you can’t get advanced gene therapy there. |