| ▲ | smcleod 8 hours ago |
| Considering all the problems they've been having with over-charging Claude Code users over the past few weeks it's the very least they could do. Max subscribers are hitting their 5 hour usage limits in 30-40 minutes with a single instance doing light work, while Anthropic have no support or contact mechanism for users that they respond to. |
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| ▲ | impulser_ 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| "Max subscribers are hitting their 5 hour usage limits in 30-40 minutes with a single instance doing light work" This has not been my experience at all. The only time I even got close to this is multiple long sessions that had multiple compacts. The key is if you hit compact, start a new session. |
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| ▲ | namelosw 28 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | This hasn't been my experience either. I personally find the max plan is very generous for day-to-day usage. And I don't even use compact manually. However, when I tried out the SuperPower skill and had multiple agents working on several projects at the same time, it did hit the 5-hour usage limit. But SuperPower hasn't been very useful for me and wastes a lot of tokens. When you want to trade longer running time for high token consumption, you only get a marginal increase in performance. So people, if you are finding yourself using up tokens too quickly, you probably want to check your skills or MCPs etc. | |
| ▲ | mcast 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's known that Anthropic's $20 Pro subscription is a gateway plan to their $100 Max subscription, since you'll easily burn your token rate on a single prompt or two. Meanwhile, I've had ample usage testing out Codex on the basic $20 ChatGPT Plus plan without a problem. As for Anthropic's $100 Max subscription, it's almost always better to start new sessions for tasks since a long conversation will burn your 5-hour usage limit with just a few prompts (assuming they read many files). It's also best to start planning first with Claude, providing line numbers and exact file paths prior, and drilling down the requirements before you start any implementation. | | |
| ▲ | deaux 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > It's known that Anthropic's $20 Pro subscription is a gateway plan to their $100 Max subscription, since you'll easily burn your token rate on a single prompt or two. I genuinely have no idea what people mean when I read this kind of thing. Are you abusing the word "prompt" to mean "conversation"? Or are you providing a huge prompt that is meant to spawn 10 subagents and write multiple new full-stack features in one go? For most users, the $20 Pro subscription, when used with Opus, does not hit the 5-hour limit on "a single prompt or two", i.e. 1-2 user messages. | |
| ▲ | runako 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > you'll easily burn your token rate on a single prompt or two My experience has been that I can usually work for a few hours before hitting a rate limit on the $20 subscription. My work time does not frequently overlap with core business hours in PDT, however. I wonder whether there is an aspect of this that is based on real-time dynamic usage. |
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| ▲ | SOLAR_FIELDS 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| “Light work” is a pretty bold statement my dude. I run max for 8+ hour coding sessions with 3-4 windows where I’m babysitting and watching the thing and I never even get session warnings. The only time I bump up against limits is on token hungry tasks like reverse engineering 3M+ LOC codebases or 5-6 agents generating unit tests in parallel. Something tells me that what you call “light work” is not remotely the same as what I consider “light work” |
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| ▲ | coffeefirst 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Wait, if it burns through a $200/mo allotment that fast, what are all these people who “barely wrote code anymore” doing? |
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| ▲ | input_sh 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You hit a vague, never-quite-explained 5h window limit that has nothing to do with what you're doing, but with what every user is doing together. It's totally not downtime, you're just "using it too much" and they're telling you to fuck off until the overall usage slows down. The order of priority is: everyone using the API (you don't want to calculate the price) → everyone on a $200/month plan → everyone on a $20/month plan → every free user. | | |
| ▲ | 00deadbeef 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yeah it's way too vague. This morning: (new chat) 42 seconds of thinking, 20 lines of code changed in 4 files = 5% usage Last night: 25 minutes of thinking, 150 lines of code generated in 10 new files = 7% usage | | |
| ▲ | exclipy 17 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I think the first message consumes disproportionately much percentage because it's not cached and includes the system prompt, tools, etc. |
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| ▲ | 8note 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | you can just watch the limit on the claude usage settings view. itd be nice to know how much the session context window applies wrt token caching, but disabling all those skills and stopping sending a screenshot every couple messages gets that 5hour limit and weekly limit a bunch better | |
| ▲ | huflungdung 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | heavyset_go 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > what are all these people who “barely wrote code anymore” doing? Writing self-serving LinkedIn productivity porn | |
| ▲ | 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | [deleted] | |
| ▲ | smcleod 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It hasn't always done this, it's a relatively recent problem in the last 1-4 weeks (roughly). (note: I'm on the $160AUD/mo plan, so I think that's $100USD). |
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| ▲ | mercutio2 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It hadn’t occurred to me this was a billing bug. That would be heartening, if I wasn’t consuming tokens 10x as fast as expected, and they just had attribution bugs. Do you have references to this being documented as the actual issue, or is this just speculation? I want to support Anthropic, but with the Codex desktop app *so much better* than Anthropic’s combined with the old “5 back and forths with Opus and your quota is gone”, it’s hard to see going back |
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| ▲ | klipklop 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Yeah I can work for minutes in the $20 Claude plan but potentially hours with Codex. It’s just not worth bothering. |
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| ▲ | chaostheory an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Experienced this with the $20 sub, but not with Max (yet). |
