| ▲ | lifestyleguru 3 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I'd prefer if rich simply paid their taxes and contributions instead of spending money on fighting poor children in Africa. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | mikepurvis 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
One of Michael Shellenberger's central theses is, I think, that the government's ability to invest in "extras" like overseas aid, science, the environment, space exploration, etc is directly a function of how large and healthy the middle class is because that's where the political capital to do these things really comes from. Basically the post-WWII period was a golden age for all of the above because the middle class of returning soldiers was there, and it was as power and wealth consolidated in the 80s and onward that there was less and less interest and agreement about spending on stuff other the essentials (which turned out to be mostly just defense). So really it's a two pronged thing: * the wealthy need to pay much more, and the government needs to invest that in services that benefit the middle class (education, health care, energy & transportation infrastructure) and also which keep people from falling out of the middle class (social safety net, consumer protections). * eventually there's a critical mass of middle class people comfortable enough to look out their windows and feel concern about pollution, the poor, etc, and then you ultimately get a combination of individual action, NGOs, and government programmes that meet the very needs that are noticed and lobbied for. But I think the issue is that many advocates want to jump directly from "more taxes on the rich" to "gov't spends directly on my pet issue", and if you miss the second step, you're never going to get the willpower to either raise the taxes or direct the money into environmental initiatives or whatever else. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | wrs 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
That made some sense back when the government used to use the taxes to help poor children in Africa, or poor children in the US for that matter. As of 2025 it seems to just leave that sort of thing up to Bill. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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