| ▲ | gcanyon 4 hours ago |
| One aspect of this is that apparently most people can't draw a bicycle much better than this: they get the elements of the frame wrong, mess up the geometry, etc. |
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| ▲ | arionmiles 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| There's a research paper from the University of Liverpool, published in 2006 where researchers asked people to draw bicycles from memory and how people overestimate their understanding of basic things. It was a very fun and short read. It's called "The science of cycology: Failures to understand how everyday objects work" by Rebecca Lawson. https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.3758/bf03195929.pdf |
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| ▲ | devilcius an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | There’s also a great art/design project about exactly this. Gianluca Gimini asked hundreds of people to draw a bicycle from memory, and most of them got the frame, proportions, or mechanics wrong.
https://www.gianlucagimini.it/portfolio-item/velocipedia/ | |
| ▲ | rcxdude 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | A place I worked at used it as part of an interview question (it wasn't some pass/fail thing to get it 100% correct, and was partly a jumping off point to a different question). This was in a city where nearly everyone uses bicycles as everyday transportation. It was surprising how many supposedly mechanical-focused people who rode a bike everyday, even rode a bike to the interview, would draw a bike that would not work. | | |
| ▲ | gcanyon an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I wish I had interviewed there. When I first read that people have a hard time with this I immediately sat down without looking at a reference and drew a bicycle. I could ace your interview. | |
| ▲ | throwuxiytayq 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is why at my company in interviews we ask people to draw a CPU diagram. You'd be surprised how many supposedly-senior computer programmers would draw a processor that would not work. | | |
| ▲ | niobe an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | If I was asked that question in an interview to be a programmer I'd walk out. How many abstraction layers either side of your knowledge domain do you need to be an expert in? Further, being a good technologist of any kind is not about having arcane details at the tip of your frontal lobe, and a company worth working for would know that. | |
| ▲ | gedy an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That's reasonable in many cases, but I've had situations like this for senior UI and frontend positions, and they: don't ask UI or frontend questions. And ask their pet low level questions. Some even snort that it's softball to ask UI questions or "they use whatever". It's like, yeah no wonder your UI is shit and now you are hiring to clean it up. | |
| ▲ | rsc an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Raises hand. |
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| ▲ | gnatolf 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Absolutely. A technically correct bike is very hard to draw in SVG without going overboard in details |
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| ▲ | nateglims 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I just had an idea for an RLVR startup. |
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| ▲ | cyanydeez 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Yes, but obviously AGI will solve this by, _checks notes_ more TerraWatts! |
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