| ▲ | Kim_Bruning 10 hours ago | |||||||||||||
I sympathize with your situation, and I'm not calling you a monster. But "I had no choice, I had people depending on me" is the exact reasoning that has enabled every atrocity carried out by ordinary people; it's the banality of evil. None of the individual acts seem evil. Conducting a census isn't evil. Collating the data isn't evil. Arresting people with the wrong papers isn't necessarily evil. Driving a train isn't evil. Operating a switch isn't evil. Processing paperwork isn't evil. Look what's proposed now: Adtech has the data, this would feed into ICE systems leading to arrests, flights are conducted, and people get put into prison camps like CECOT where they have no recourse and where people are already talking about forced labor. So no, I'm not saying to these folks "you're literally causing Auschwitz". That's a famous Vernichtungslager, and that's not true yet. But people getting locked up in Concentrationslager or Arbeitslager (like historically : Mittelbau-Dora, Flossenbürg, Mauthausen, and Monowitz). I think we're getting there. I guess the question is: at which point do you decide maybe to wear extra layers or skip a meal instead? We're not there yet. The chain has many links. Eternal vigilance is needed to make sure they don't actually link up. (ps. Imagine if I was posting this in 2024! Can I exchange this timeline for another please? ) | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | jacquesm 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||
> That's a famous Vernichtungslager, and that's not true yet. But it may well become true soon. | ||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | surgical_fire 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||
I understand quite well. The banality of evil is a thing because most people have actual very little power to enact meaningful change. Risking yourself for the well being of complete strangers is commendable, but often has an obscene cost for the individual. I reject that societal and systemic issues can be fixed by individual action, unless as an individual you are extremely powerful (and the ones that are typically are the ones causing the societal and systemic harm). As an common man you can do small things. Do a lousy job when processing the paperwork of evil. Malicious cooperation to the powers that be. Small acts of charity. That sort of thing. Systemic change can only be achieved through collective action. Easier said than done. The world is cursed. Life is tough even at the best of times. The system as it is ensures compliance through coercion and threats. I honestly believe we would agree more than disagree on the current state of things. I just reject the approach that individual action is a way out of this sort of mess. | ||||||||||||||
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