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RGamma 11 hours ago

Dilapidating the world for an easy buck is gonna bite you and/or your kids eventually. We have reached technological sophistication where certain kinds of mistakes are not allowed if civilization as we know it is to survive.

surgical_fire 11 hours ago | parent [-]

When the bank reposseses the house because you are not paying the mortgage, this will bite you and your kids too.

You can call it an "easy buck", and it is just coping. An easy way to make some poor schlemiel creating a miserable report with user location data during his sprint into a greedy bastard that is just enriching his bank account out of the suffering of plenty.

RGamma 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Atomization enables this. Any number of individuals are individually weak against their employer/some org, but a big group of them can be quite powerful.

If many were to sacrifice their morals out of financial pressure easily (the control over which is in increasingly few hands) the path the US is treading becomes pretty deterministic... We've seen it in the movies and read it in the books.

You guys seem to need collective action and civil disobedience.

Then again.. maybe the will for collective action comes only after the repossessions...

surgical_fire 10 hours ago | parent [-]

> You guys

One of the reasons I chose to move to Europe is because I value the mininal safety nets and labor protections on this side of the pond. Yes, I make less money and pay more taxes but I believe this is how society should work, I reject the hyper individualism that ignores any sort of collective.

But I am also not naive. Expecting individuals to take the burden for decisions way beyond their control is silly. It takes immense fortitude to threaten the well being of those dear to you based on principle, when the only outcome is your own suffering (the company will likely find another employee right away anyway).

jacquesm 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The best way to evaluate any society is to look at what happens to people without power in the system. Inmates, illegals, the poor and children.

TitaRusell 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Actually the social safety net has allowed Europeans a level of individualism that is completely unimaginable for the rest of the world.

No charity from church or family needed. Just the State- and it does not care about your religion or sexual preferences.