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anonym29 13 hours ago

Don't forget - Microsoft, Google, Apple, Amazon, Oracle, etc are all proud partners of the US intelligence community, which includes DHS and ICE. When the NSA asked these companies to participate in an unconstitutional and unlawful program (as ruled by a federal judge) called PRISM, they didn't fight, they eagerly complied. They kept their compliance secret. They lied about it to citizens, to their users, to their customers, and even to congress. These are fundamentally untrustworthy entities, and there's no reason to believe they've changed and won't comply with secret DHS and ICE requests just like they did with secret NSA requests.

Every dollar spent on AWS, Azure, GCP, Oracle Cloud, iPhones, Macbooks, Windows, Office, etc supports the widespread violation of rights committed against the innocent of all political and demographic backgrounds in the name of "national security".

Know what doesn't? Open source operating systems, open source software, and self-hosting. Do the right thing, ditch the modern day equivalents of IBM collaborating with the enemies of freedom, human dignity, and human prosperity.

michaelsshaw 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>Do the right thing, ditch the modern day equivalents of IBM collaborating with the enemies of freedom, human dignity, and human prosperity.

I think it needs to go a bit further than that. We need names, for purposes of blacklisting but also future prosecution. Collaborators should not be tolerated.

I'm sure it's not popular, but quite a few of our colleagues and fellow HN readers do belong in cells.

Symbiote 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And for Europeans or those in other countries: every dollar spent on these companies is supporting their support of Trump; that's against Greenland, NATO etc. For example, Microsoft donated $1M (IIRC) to Trump for Davos.

At work we have stopped buying new American services, but there's been very little reduction of existing use.

(Yet we did manage a policy stating we won't buy anything from Russia.)

direwolf20 7 hours ago | parent [-]

And for Europeans: Germany France and UK do the same thing

andsoitis 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What phone do you use?

direwolf20 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

GrapheneOS is the only phone that Cellebrite admits they can't hack. And the only phone that if you bring it to Catalonia, they'll assume you're a drug dealer.

roughly 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

AND YET YOU PARTICIPATE IN SOCIETY

michaelsshaw 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Pixel 8 Pro with Graphene.