>Nevermind that society dictates everyone must work to survive by default.

How does a society that allows not working function? How does it defend itself against attacking societies?

ElevenLathe 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

How much of our labor is being used on activities that improve society's ability to defend itself, even in an indirect way? Isn't most of it being used to, as a schematic, serve coffee and send email?

	▲	lotsofpulp 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Waste is abound, but how would you get members of the society to feel like things are "fair enough" if everyone didn't "have to work"? (they are obviously not currently, but I am referring to a more ideal society where obviously some people need to do some work)

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jackblemming 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

With technological improvements, we could work far less than we do and enjoy a nice quality of life. Those excess gains were slurped up by the ruling class instead. And the 2nd question looks like American propaganda where if you don’t spend trillions and trillions on defense, the Chinese, Russian, whatever boogeyman will get you.

	▲	lotsofpulp 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		>With technological improvements, we could work far less than we do and enjoy a nice quality of life. The current allocation of who does and who does not have to work and how much they have to work is suboptimal, and one of the reasons for societal decay. >And the 2nd question looks like American propaganda where if you don’t spend trillions and trillions on defense, the Chinese, Russian, whatever boogeyman will get you. There are multiple examples of the Chinese, Russian, Americans, and other boogeymen "getting" others in my short lifetime of 40 years. Either way, there's highly undesirable work that has to be done for many societies, whether it be cleaning sewers, farming in humid, hot weather, and educating one's self for 30 years just to do surgery at 2AM, and clean up the fluids and mess of that surgery. If only some people have to do that and not others, it obviously brings up questions of fairness, so the fair alternative is everyone has to work for a certain quality of life (which is not currently true for those with >$x assets).