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Telemakhos 14 hours ago

Apple's niche product, consisting of like 1-4% of computer sales compared to its dominant MacBook line, is now flying off the shelf as a highly desired product, because of a piece of software that Apple didn't spend a dime developing. This sounds like a major win for Apple.

The OS maker does not have to make all the killer software. In fact, Apple's pretty much the only game in town that's making hardware and software both.

wqaatwt 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Really doubt it has a significant impact on mac mini sales…

And being fair ClawBot is a complete meme/fad at this point rather than an actual product. Using it for anything serious is pretty much the equivalent of throwing your credit cards, ids and sticky notes with passwords and waiting to see what happens…

I do see the appeal and potential case of the general concept of course. The product itself (and the author has admitted it themselves) is literally is a garbage pile..

computershit an hour ago | parent [-]

> Using it for anything serious

One man's trash is another man's serious

neumann 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What are you referring to?

lanakei 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Probably the Mac Mini. A few OpenClaw users are buying the agent a dedicated device so that it can integrate with their Apple account.

For example: https://x.com/michael_chomsky/status/2017686846910959668.

koolala 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Why would it need more than 1? Couldn't they do this with any Mac with an Apple account?

karlshea 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It appears he is selling a service where he comes to you (optionally with a Mac Mini which is probably why he's buying multiple) and sets up OpenClaw for you.

beepbooptheory 9 hours ago | parent [-]

That truly cant be it right? This is like satire? How much do you even charge for that?

karlshea 11 minutes ago | parent [-]

Unfortunately not satire, and the answer is $500

vovavili 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Mac Minis are perfect for locally running demanding models because they can effectively use ordinary RAM as VRAM.

hjoutfbkfd 11 hours ago | parent [-]

but people dont use OpenClaw with local models

Quarrel 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Considering there are 1.5M openclaw agents, created by 17,000 humans, it seems like some people really would use more than 1.

wqaatwt 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Are you saying that software is THAT inefficient so that you can’t run a few hundred of them on a single Mac Mini? : D

hjoutfbkfd 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

if you are counting reported moltbook accounts there are not, the API was spammed by scripts to create accounts

Quarrel 5 hours ago | parent [-]

This was on HN a few days ago, I wasn't counting anything:

https://www.wiz.io/blog/exposed-moltbook-database-reveals-mi...

whatsupdog 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There are few open source projects coming along that let you sell your compute power in a decentralized way. I don't know how genuine some of these are [0] but it could be the reason: people are just trying to make money.

0. https://www.daifi.ai/

Aurornis 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There have been countless projects to sell distributed compute power. I don't know of any that have gotten much traction. Everyone keeps trying to create new ones instead of developing for the existing ones.

The one you linked to looks clearly like a pump-and-dump scam, though.

koolala 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That one definitely looks like a crypto scam.

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jb1991 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The entire point of the article is about the Mac mini sales flying through the roof because of this.

ajcp 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Mac-Minis

Der_Einzige 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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Tagbert 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

So you might be discriminated against by some ignorant teenagers? Probably for the best.

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velcrovan 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

who's "afraid" of green bubbles? it's like saying a toyota corolla driver is afraid of the ford pinto

antinomicus 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No it’s like someone owning a Ferrari and looking down on someone who drives a Corolla. Or that’s how they see it, anyway. Plus there’s the annoyance with interoperability: it’s not just about status, it’s about all your iMessage group chats that don’t play nice with android

elcritch 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Apple chose the colors well. For whatever reason the shade of green they chose just gives a bit of ick.

mlrtime 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's a real thing, you're either too old and/or not dating young people. Some do care a lot.

wolvoleo 10 hours ago | parent [-]

IMO it is pretty shallow to pick dating partners based on their mobile OS but yeah it does happen.

sneak 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

iMessage lock in is a huge thing. When it was new and was still e2ee I ended up buying iPhones for everyone I regularly messaged.

These days it is insecure however because they backdoored the e2ee and kept it backdoored for the FBI, so now Signal is the only messenger I am reachable on.

Blue bubble snobbery is presently a mark of ignorance more than anything else.

xp84 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I agree that it’s stupid to judge people for it, but you do have to admit that especially with not all people having RCS, the feature set of SMS and MMS that you have to deal with when not using iMessage is pretty barbaric. From the potato-quality videos (ironically, I recall QuickTime was heavily involved in that spec, lol) to the asinine way Apple lets you apply a reaction and then sends it as a verbose text… From an iPhone user’s point of view, a “green bubble” means “this conversation will work like it’s 2003.”

Yes, I know 99.999% of Android users are on WhatsApp (or WeChat, Line, or Telegram depending on cultural background) but at least half of iPhone users aren’t on those, so we still have to keep using Messages for a lot of people.

jrflowers 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

People are buying mac minis so their openclaw instances can date?

majormajor 12 hours ago | parent [-]

I assume the suggestion is that they need to run their bot on a machine that's up 24x7 (and they don't want to do that with a laptop since they probably carry it places and such), AND they want it to manage their texts by interacting with the Mac version of the Messages app.

But if you connect those dots you've got people trying to date by having an AI respond to texts from potential dates which seems like you're immediately in red-flag-city and good luck keeping that secret for long enough to get whatever it is you want.

rrdharan 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't follow this logic.

Forget about dating. If you want the AI to be able to send texts from your number, and you own an iPhone, I think your only other choice would be to port your number to Google Voice?

jrflowers 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> But if you connect those dots you've got people trying to date by having an AI respond to texts from potential dates

Yeah I’m trying to wrap my head around what sort of reads like “It is messed up that people avoid talking to eachother because of software because it messes up people’s ability to use software to avoid talking to eachother”

areoform 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

   (Yes android users are discriminated against in the dating market, tons of op eds are written about this, just google it before you knee jerk downvote the truth)
If someone is shallow enough to write you off for that, is that someone you want as your partner?
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usefulcat 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You're saying I might have trouble getting a date if I don't have a Mac mini?

r14c 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Imo using android is a great way to filter out extremely boring and vapid individuals from my dating pool.

LeoPanthera 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you want to know how I can tell you didn't read the article?

jb1991 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Do you want to know how I can tell that you did not read the hacker news guidelines.