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Legend2440 3 hours ago

You're panicking. We're gonna be fine.

We've done lots of automation before, and we all benefited immensely. Just chill and deal with problems as they come up.

switchbak 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That’s just faith though. And I see no driving reason to trust in your faith.

We’ve never seen anything remotely close to this kind of upheaval. This kind of techno-optimism makes sense in the very young, but seems painfully naive once you’ve been around the block a bunch of times.

There are no adults in the room driving this. There’s weird ultra elite people driving this forward with their competitive megalomaniacal egos. And we’re stuck in a game theoretic landscape where it’s effectively an inevitable race to a max AI future. None of this is a recipe for a stable or prosperous future.

If this wild accelerated future ends up being a utopia, I’ll be jazzed to eat my words. I just haven’t seen any utopias unfold in my life, and I’m skeptical of those who tell me to chill and embrace the chaos.

danaris 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The "problems that come up" will be people homeless and starving.

I'm 100% with stego-tech that I think we should address the major, glaring concerns that come with greater automation before that happens.

Because I care about my fellow human beings, and do not want them to suffer.

fluoridation 2 hours ago | parent [-]

People starving en masse because there was no work to do anymore and no way to get paid, despite there being plentiful food, is something that has never happened. If the amount of money on the consumer side of the food economy were to shrink significantly, what should happen is that the price of food should also go down until people can buy food again. The stock has to move no matter what, otherwise it spoils.

danaris 2 hours ago | parent [-]

And if the price that those people can afford is $0, because ClaudeGPTPilot MegaAGI took all their jobs? What then?

There is a price below which no farmer is going to sell, regardless of whether they have another buyer.

What you're saying effectively amounts to "come on, there's no way they'd actually let people starve in the streets! That's something that could never happen these days."

Think about whether there might be other things that "could never happen these days" that are happening right now, in various places in America.

fluoridation 2 hours ago | parent [-]

If we're talking about huge groups, like thousands, of people having no money for food, it would behoove the government to pay for that food, just to avoid a revolt. Just as a matter of self-preservation.