The thing, which would have not been created otherwise. Why pretend like you didn't know that?

account42 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

We often only get the thing for a limited time period after it is lost forever because copyright has prevented the thing from being archived.

A lot of things that are copyrighted would have also been created anyway, often by multiple people, because there is an actual need for them to exist or an inherent human drive to create them. We have been creating things, both with practical applications or as art, long before we had copyright. And with the ability to effortlessly copy works at effectively no cost we do (or would) have an ever increasing library of them which reduces the need to encourage even more creation than what would happen anyway, especially when the cost of that encouragement is not only excessive but ends up impeding many creative endeavors.

	▲	freejazz 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		>We often only get the thing for a limited time period after it is lost forever because copyright has prevented the thing from being archived. That's not inherent to copyright, though copyright does grant the author the power to control distribution of its work. Nevertheless, it all eventually becomes public domain. >A lot of things that are copyrighted would have also been created anyway, often by multiple people, because there is an actual need for them to exist or an inherent human drive to create them. Such as? > And with the ability to effortlessly copy works at effectively no cost we do (or would) have an ever increasing library of them which reduces the need to encourage even more creation than what would happen anyway, especially when the cost of that encouragement is not only excessive but ends up impeding many creative endeavors That's a lot of words but nothing actual. Do you think you'd see David Lynch movies if there was no copyright? What do you think the world today would be like if there was no copyright? Some sort of magical world where authors create for free, without any regard for the finances required to do so? It's a bit ridiculous.

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RiverCrochet 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> which would have not been created otherwise

Claim not supported. You haven't established that absolutely no one else could create the thing. People create things all the time under such liberal conditions as public domain, so having dictatorial power over a thing is not a necessary condition to create it.

	▲	freejazz 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Your claim isn't supported either. > People create things all the time under such liberal conditions as public domain And people are free to, even under the duress of copyright. What's the problem there? What was the last movie you saw?