| ▲ | knuckleheads 4 hours ago |
| You in particular are my main criticism of Occupy as a movement. They lacked any sort of structure, shunned it in fact, that would have ripped control of these resources away from you once it became clear that you disagreed politically with the vast majority of the people involved. That you were allowed to keep control of those resources is emblematic of how Occupy could let all that energy dissipate into nothing. |
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| ▲ | bombcar 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Co-opting potentially effective political movements is how the people in control stay in control. Once you start noticing it, you see it time and time again. |
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| ▲ | jart 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What resources? OccupyWallSt.org only accepted enough donations to keep the 1-800 number and website online. I was smart enough to understand back then that an unemployed 26 year old activist living in a park wasn't qualified to manage the capital that was being offered to us. So what did I do? I gave you about twenty different links for various projects on the donation page to choose from. |
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| ▲ | knuckleheads 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Thank you for another example of why Occupy was doomed to fail, I had not considered that you had control over the donation flow. Instead of working together as a group and finding somebody more responsible than yourself to manage the incoming capital, you diverted it away from the movement and dispersed it to the winds. Was that decision made collectively by the group? Or did you take it upon yourself to do so? Control over the domains and twitter account, along with the incoming flow of donations are the resources that you had and Occupy let you squander. | | |
| ▲ | jart 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Every group that showed up in the park and was working on a project, they could come to me and ask that their donation link be posted on the OccupyWallSt.org donate page. I'm a tech person. I registered a domain. I play it neutral. I included everything from basket weaving to aspiring governments. One of these groups called itself NYCGA or the NYC General Assembly. They were the political organization that claimed dominion over Occupy Wall Street and the public elected to give them the lion's share of donations. The guy who ended up with most of their money, if memory serves me right, is a tattoo artist named Pete Dutro. So these days I'm a lot more opinionated. The Pete Dutros of the financial community took out trillions of dollars of loans from Japan and the economy is crashing right now because of them. We should be focusing on reallocating that capital. | | |
| ▲ | knuckleheads 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | What a fall from grace, trying to fashion buying calls on FXY as a revolution! Put this on your own personal website and redirect that page, let the domain maintain some dignity. | | |
| ▲ | jart 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | This was posted on OccupyWallSt.com. The OccupyWallSt.org website is still exactly as it was in its full 2011 looking glory. I've been dragging my heels on renewing the SSL certificate however everything's still there. It's even been cataloged and archived by the Library of Congress for posterity. So the dignity of the movement has been secured and is continuing to be respected. Your voices are now a permanent artifact in America's historical record. | | |
| ▲ | animal_spirits an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I was in 8th grade in 2011 and new to web2.0. Saw much about Occupy Wall St and was inspired. Just thought I'd let you know, so thanks for the work. | | | |
| ▲ | greggoB 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Your voices are now a permanent artifact in America's historical record. I like how the wording here (Your voices) is giving off that sarcastic and patronizing "you're welcome" tone. Like a religious person saying "I'll pray for you" to someone non-religious, where the undertone is an obvious middle finger. It's pretty fun. | | |
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| ▲ | popalchemist 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yep, occupy may have had the moral high ground but they squandered it because they were the modern day hippy idealists with no boots-on-the-ground (or feet touching grass) know-how to actually effect change in a protracted way. | |
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| ▲ | giraffe_lady 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Well, and now you use it for this so what was all that for? | |
| ▲ | AndrewKemendo 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I’d love to talk with you because I’ve tried to do anarchist organization in the past and it’s super fucking hard one (started here) was successful but one failed hard I’d just be curious to trade stories to see if we can learn from each other My handle@iCloud if you want to reach out |
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| ▲ | thomassmith65 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| The 'Occupy' energy didn't dissipate into nothing. It fueled extremism and populism, both on the left and on the right. |
