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| ▲ | GorbachevyChase 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I would make the correction that the protest movement was not left wing. I think he’s trying to take credit for his favorite team. TARP was opposed by 80% of Americans. It passed legislation anyway. I think there’s a good lesson to be learned in how performative and inconsequential the electoral process is. | |
| ▲ | barbazoo 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Carried over to Europe too, I remember the camps and protests in many cities' financial districts. | |
| ▲ | irishcoffee 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | One can make the argument that trump was elected because of OWS knock-on effects... | | |
| ▲ | johnvanommen 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > One can make the argument that trump was elected because of OWS knock-on effects... Absolutely. And guys like Tim Poole got famous off Occupy, then parlayed that fame into building an audience for themselves. The libertarians at OWS never went away, they just found new causes. I was at the HUMONGOUS rally that Obama held in Portland in 2008. The epicenter of OWS was based a few blocks away, years later, and reflected the optimism of 2008 hardening into frustration over Wall Street excess. | |
| ▲ | tolerance 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I’m listening—... | | |
| ▲ | DiscourseFan 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Just, like, it was the first populist political movement following the ‘08 crash, and while Obama was supposed to be the liberal technocratic answer to the failure of neoliberalism, he was not able to create policies that restored the social and economic post-war order in the US. After Bernie Sanders lost the 2016 nomination, the populist left, which still retained a hope of a new kind of society, no longer had a political representative, and Trump managed to clinch the nomination by campaigning in states that had been neglected by the Clinton campaign. Biden was another, more radical but still fundamentally liberal technocratic attempt to save the status quo of America politics, but the largest economic gains were for the educated professional class, and many people in the country felt left behind and ignored—-again, now with the backing of popular support, Trump won the 2024 election with a promise to completely reshape the country. And he has at least in part succeeded. | | |
| ▲ | tolerance 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Hmm…there has to be more to it though right? The timeline tracks but it looks like there are events missing in between. How do we go from OWS to things like “Drain the Swamp” within a span of roughly five years? | | |
| ▲ | DiscourseFan 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Its a rough sketch. In the end, the viccisitudes of individual history are unable to capture the broader conditions of the events they take place in. | | |
| ▲ | tolerance 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Either no single name/event mentioned in the timeline you provided was remarkable enough to furnish such a vista on its own, or you’re correct. |
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| ▲ | giraffe_lady 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | How do you get from occupy to the tea party is the link this hypothesis is missing. Tea party was the clear predecessor to the maga movement, with its nucleation point being simple racist backlash against obama and trump being personally & directly involved in stoking that racism. In retrospect it obviously laid the groundwork for trump's movement, and I can't see any direct link from occupy to tea party other than perhaps some individuals like tunney. | |
| ▲ | worik 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yes Trump told people "you're OK". It is what people need to hear |
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