| ▲ | dogtimeimmortal 23 days ago |
| > blog.adafruit.com
Your browser is out of date. Update your browser to view this site properly.
Click here for more information if you care about right to repair and the ability of regular people to make a living and choose their own destiny(i.e. live independently of a mega-corp), this type of error message should bother you. HTML is a mature tech. There is no reason for this type of error |
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| ▲ | ptorrone 23 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| (posting this in both comments about this) i am the author of the article. the adafruit blog is not trying to block you my dude(s). we are under constant automated scraping and ddos, largely from ai crawlers, and we use cloudflare to keep the site online at all. the nature of of these things will cause false positives depending on browser, extensions, network, or referrer. the site publishs full-text rss feeds with no blockers here, no ads:
https://blog.adafruit.com/rss the site respects do not track, privacy badger, and similar tools. the site will probably never pass the purity tests for everyone, the goal is to stay independent, publishing, without selling readers or folding into a mega-platform. we're open source and vc free, chill out about us, ok? if you still can’t get an article and want it in html, markdown, text, or pdf, email me and i’ll send it directly, i will read it on the phone to you, i am not kidding. we’re trying, and we’ll keep trying. you gotta meet somewhere. |
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| ▲ | Roark66 23 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Cloudflare is ridiculous. I can't even open it using Cromite (privacy enhanced, but not over the top, android browser). I get: blog.adafruit.com
Verifying you are human. This may take a few seconds. blog.adafruit.com needs to review the security of your connection before proceeding. And this hangs forever. What difference does it make if I access this site using a browser (blocked anyway) or I asked my LLM to fetch the content? I bet my LLM coukd get it anyway as I'm using basic local scraping with firecrawl for backup. So my LLM if it fails to retrieve using my basic local crawl4ai will use my paid firecrawl api and those guys can scrape EVERYTHING. I do not understand why do you (as a site owner) care? Are these bots generating so much traffic? Can you set it up to serve text only version to them then? | | |
| ▲ | ptorrone 23 days ago | parent | next [-] | | this isn’t an adafruit-specific stance, it’s a web-wide problem. automated scraping and bot traffic is enough to take independent sites offline, and cloudflare is a tool we use to keep the site available at all. we publish full-text rss with no blockers here: https://blog.adafruit.com/rss
. if cloudflare trips on your browser and you want an article, email me and i’ll send it in whatever format you want, we're always working to make it easier, it's hard, would rather have help than snarks and dunks. | | |
| ▲ | Roark66 21 days ago | parent [-] | | It is fine, I have used a browser I keep for such occasions. My critique is less about this site and more about the state of Web in general. Thank you for providing the rss feed. |
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| ▲ | Tangurena2 23 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | My office uses ZScalar and lots of sites automatically block that because the company running the product make the product seem like an "open anonymous proxy". |
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| ▲ | fortran77 23 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Forget it. Every thread has these who people complain when some website doesn't open in Lynx or Amaya with Javascript disabled. Ignore them. | | |
| ▲ | 9875325996435 23 days ago | parent [-] | | Didn't know there were proponents of Cloudflare's enshittification and centralization of the Internet. |
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| ▲ | mghackerlady 23 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Is the scraping protection the only thing relying on cloudflare? If it is then there are solutions like anubis that work pretty well | | | |
| ▲ | mathgradthrow 23 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | So, is cloudflare just becoming proof of bloat? | |
| ▲ | metadat 23 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | What's your email address? | | | |
| ▲ | ssl-3 23 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | When companies that earn their money by selling things deliberately make their website hard to access (especially for scrapers -- of any sort), then they're making a choice to abandon their customers. It seems ruthlessly disappointing to consider, but maybe Adafruit isn't cut out for this whole Internet thing. | | |
| ▲ | Stefan-H 23 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Can you elaborate on the logic that makes preventing scrapers (note, you didn't mention actually hindering accessibility technologies) customer antagonistic? | | |
| ▲ | ssl-3 23 days ago | parent [-] | | When a product doesn't show up at all using the [potential] customer's chosen tools (whether a search engine like Google, or an LLM like ChatGPT), then that product is invisible. An invisible product is one that may as well not exist. When a person can't find it, then they also can't purchase it. |
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| ▲ | ptorrone 23 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | (posting this in both comments about this) i am the author of the article.
the adafruit blog is not trying to block you my dude(s). we are under constant automated scraping and ddos, largely from ai crawlers, and we use cloudflare to keep the site online at all. the nature of of these things will cause false positives depending on browser, extensions, network, or referrer. the site publishs full-text rss feeds with no blockers here, no ads: https://blog.adafruit.com/rss the site respects do not track, privacy badger, and similar tools. the site will probably never pass the purity tests for everyone, the goal is to stay independent, publishing, without selling readers or folding into a mega-platform. we're open source and vc free, chill out about us, ok? if you still can’t get an article and want it in html, markdown, text, or pdf, email me and i’ll send it directly, i will read it on the phone to you, i am not kidding. we’re trying, and we’ll keep trying. you gotta meet somewhere. | | |
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| ▲ | rafaelmn 23 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Oh look - HN fortune cookies | | |
| ▲ | theyregr8 23 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Yeah you can't predict anything with 100% certainty either By repeating propaganda at you though desperate financiers can hack your brains innate prediction loop to convince you you're knocking on the door of infamy. Look, I get you. You're trying to fill the hole created when father never came back with cigarettes. Mom always blamed you for his leaving. But little Warboy screaming "Witness me make line go up !" everyone else is a self selecting meat suit too working unintentionally (simply distracted by their own lives needs they never encounter your pitch) and in some instances intentionally (fomenting economic and political instability) against you to support themselves. | |
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| ▲ | cucumber3732842 23 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Webdev new hotness monkey poo flinging software development is not these people's schtick. Hardware is. God forbid whatever library they use to make their website "easy" and detract less labor from their endeavors not have default settings in perfect accordance with their politics. I bet they don't compile their OS from source either. |
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| ▲ | pclmulqdq 23 days ago | parent [-] | | The "new hotness" in webdev is what causes these errors. Plain old HTML pretty much never has these issues. Clearly they are into the new hotness in webdev. | | |
| ▲ | cucumber3732842 23 days ago | parent [-] | | Exactly. Unless they want to make a project out of their website they're at the mercy of the packages and frameworks they depend upon, who are run by people who generally like webdev stuff and have no qualms about the new hotness. |
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| ▲ | justinsaccount 23 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Did you consider clicking the "Click here for more information" to learn what the reason was? |
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| ▲ | micromacrofoot 23 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| If you're using a browser more than a year old it's also much more likely you're vulnerable to zero-day exploits. Browser tech is a lot different than it was 10 years ago. |
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| ▲ | jeroenhd 23 days ago | parent [-] | | That error message almost always means someone is using an extremely obscure browser that doesn't pass Cloudflare's not-a-bot-check. Either the browser has Javascript disabled (Tor), or its Javascript engine is very outdated/broken (a couple of old Firefox forks) or doesn't support Javascript at all. It doesn't necessarily mean the browser is vulnerable to anything, just that it's not a browser normal websites would expect to encounter so the bot check fails. |
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