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joe_mamba 5 hours ago

>Punishing kids after the fact does not stop the damage from occurring.

Banning AI doesn't stop the damage from occurring. Bullies at school/college have been harassing their victims, often to suicide for decades/centuries before AI.

anonymous908213 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm sorry, did the article or anyone in this subthread suggest banning AI? That seems like quite a non-sequitur. I'm pretty sure the idea is to put a content filter on an online platform for one very specific kind of already-illegal content (modified nude images of real people, especially children), which is a far cry from a ban. Nothing can stop local diffusion or Photoshop, of course, but the hardware and technical barriers are so much higher that curtailing Grok would probably cut off 99% or more of the problem material. I suppose you'll tell me if any solution is not 100% effective we should do nothing and embrace anarchy?

Edit for the addition of the line about bullying: "Bullying has always happened, therefore we should allow new forms of even worse bullying to flourish freely, even though I readily acknowledge that it can lead to victims committing suicide" is a bizarre and self-contradictory take. I don't know what point you think you're making.

owebmaster 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You are defending child pornography en mass and for profit? Is it a new low for HN?

direwolf20 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Y Combinator supports doing anything that makes money

joe_mamba 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm not defending CP, WTF is wrong with you? You're just hallucinating/making stuff up in bad faith.

wizzwizz4 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Child sexual abuse material is literally in the training sets. Saying "banning AI" as though it's all the same thing, and all morally-neutral, is disingenuous. (Yes, a system with both nudity and children in its dataset might still be able to produce such images – and there are important discussions to be had about that – but giving xAI the benefit of equivocation here is an act of malice.)

expedition32 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Nobody wants to ban AI they want to regulate it. Which is what we do with all new technology.

To paraphrase "your tech bros were so preoccupied with whether or not they could they never considered if they should"