Yeah he only micromanages (look at his old blog) every detail he has time for at an extremely successful aerospace engineering company, just an ideas guy.

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youarentrightjr 15 hours ago | parent [-]

> Yeah he only micromanages (look at his old blog) every detail he has time for at an extremely successful aerospace engineering company, just an ideas guy.

Have you ever spoken to someone who works at SpaceX? I have multiple friends in the industry, who have taken a trip through the company.

The overwhelming consensus is that - in meetings, you nod along and tell Elon "great idea". Immediately after you get back to real engineering and design things such that they make sense.

The folks working there are under no delusion that he has any business being involved in rocket science, it's fascinating that the general public doesn't see it that way.

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ta988 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Or you are actively trying to have the meetings when you are sure he cannot be present because he keeps derailing them.

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gordian-mind 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Any cool kid in uni has had the same views as you do for ten years.

What do you and them know that the countless extremely successful engineers who actually worked with Elon do not?

https://erik-engheim.medium.com/is-elon-musk-just-a-sales-gu...

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youarentrightjr 12 hours ago | parent [-]

> What do you and them know that the countless extremely successful engineers who actually worked with Elon do not?

Did you read my comment?

"I have multiple friends in the industry, who have taken a trip through the company."

I am literally referring to extremely successful engineers who have worked directly with Elon.

I'm going to need more than a puff piece on some random Elon stan's medium page to outweigh what I've heard from my friends.

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gordian-mind 12 hours ago | parent [-]

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	▲	youarentrightjr 12 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> This medium page simply quotes people. Feel free to quote your imaginary friends on your own medium page. Simply quotes people with obvious large financial interest in the success of the company, who are therefore motivated to continue the super genius narrative. I guess we all have our biases - I believe first hand accounts, you believe social media posts. To each his own.

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mhh__ 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why are they doing any better than any other firm then? Why has Tesla been successful? Why is xAI pretty similar in terms of approach? My idea has less variables than yours. It also doesn't fly with his tendency to fire people.

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youarentrightjr 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Why are they doing any better than any other firm then?

Any other firm, you mean like the bloated and bureaucratic NASA/JPL/defense contractor madhouse? That's not much competition.

> Why has Tesla been successful? Why is xAI pretty similar in terms of approach? My idea has less variables than yours. It also doesn't fly with his tendency to fire people.

Your "idea" (statement) is that his companies are successful due to his micromanagement. In reality, they're successful in spite of it. Like all impactful engineering institutions, there are incredibly talented people working at the "bottom" levels of these companies that hold the whole thing together.

There's a good bit of irony here in your thought that he'd fire people that didn't agree with him or disobeyed him. From what I've heard, he lacks the technical rigor to even understand how what was implemented differs from his totally awesome and cool, off the cuff, reality adjacent ideas.

The myth of the supergenius CEO has real potential to influence investors, beyond that, the hard engineering is up to the engineers. Period. SpaceX wouldn't have gotten past o-ring selection with Elon at the engineering helm.

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robocat 12 hours ago | parent [-]

> NASA/JPL/defense contractor

Perhaps learn to look around the world. Europe has nothing, China is working on copying. New Zealand has RocketLab but looks like they've sold out to the states and is only for small payloads yet.

	▲	youarentrightjr 12 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> Perhaps learn to look around the world. Europe has nothing, China is working on copying. New Zealand has RocketLab but looks like they've sold out to the states and is only for small payloads yet. And which of those is also an American institution, with American educated employees and American cultural values, operating in an American legal and business framework? Pretending NZ is a relevant comparison point is laughable. I bet SpaceX is also doing better than the 5th grade STEM class down the street! Russia would've been a much better comparison given the history of the world we live in, but still not apples to apples.

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lokar 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Shedding the very slow process of “legacy” defense/aerospace companies, taking more risks, moving faster, accepting some setbacks etc does not mean you need to go full Musk. There is a middle ground.

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ambicapter 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Have you ever worked at a company? Was how profitable the company was directly related to how high-functioning it was? Not in my experience.

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CamperBob2 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The same reason why Microsoft was able to kick everybody else out of the PC operating system and office software sectors: everybody else was even less competent.

	▲	robocat 12 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I always felt that Microsoft's winning move was to be consistently mediocre. They just waited until competitors screwed up. Now they're following in IBMs or Intel's footsteps - concentrating everything on the enterprise market and slowly dying.
	▲	mhh__ 13 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Bill Gates was also pretty good

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lokar 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I have heard similar things