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direwolf20 20 hours ago

Well, RAINN are stupid then.

CSAM is the woke word for child pornography, which is the normal.word for pornography involving children. Pornography is defined as material aiming to sexually stimulate, and CSAM is that.

chrisjj 18 hours ago | parent [-]

> CSAM is the woke word for child pornography

I fear you could be correct.

direwolf20 17 hours ago | parent [-]

CSAM is to child pornography as MAP is to pedophile. Both words used to refer to a thing without the negative connotation.

FireBeyond 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'd say it was the other way around, MAP is an attempt at avoiding the stigma of pedophile, while CSAM is saying "pornography can be an entirely acceptable, positive, consensual thing, but that's not what 'pornography' involving children is, it's evidence of abuse or exploitation or..."

chrisjj 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Well put.

The term CSAM was adopted in the UK following outrage over the "Gary Glitter Effect" - soaring offence rates driven by news of people caught downloading images of unspeakable abuse crimes getting mild sentences for mere child porn.

This is why many feel strongly about defending the term "CSAM" from those who seek to dilute it to cover e.g. mild Grok-style child porn.

The UK Govt. has announced plans to define CSAM in law.

chrisjj 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> CSSM is to child pornography

CSSM?

chrisjj 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Ah. You edited it to CSAM. Thanks.

Well, I'm sure CSAM has negative connotation. Our UK Govt. doesn't keep a database of all CSAM found by the police because its a positive thing.

direwolf20 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Only people who are involved in CSAM arguments on the internet know what CSAM means. Ask some random person on the street if they know what CSAM means. Then ask them if they know what child porn means.

chrisjj 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> Only people who are involved in CSAM arguments on the internet know what CSAM means.

I'm pretty sure you can add all the Governments, police depts and online safety organisations who use this term and rely upon it. Do include the 196 countries which depend on the Interpol CSAM database.

anigbrowl 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Dude just stop, you are being ridiculous now.