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cj 19 hours ago

This is intersting.

Occasionally in YC founder circles a new founder will raise a bunch of money and then ask something like "What's the best way to invest all the money our company just raised?"

The responses are always along the lines of "Your startup is already risky. Don't innovate in areas of your business where the status quo is known to work. Innovate your product + technology, don't be innovative with your company's finances, HR, etc"

That advice always stuck with me. It just makes a lot of sense to do things in the most boring way possible, except where it matters (your competitive advantage <-- that's where you innovate, that's where you set yourself apart)

Running a startup is distracting enough. Doing things non-standard just adds to the list of distractions that you don't need as a founder.

Aurornis 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

YC, like most incubators, has always encouraged their companies to use products and services from other companies in their portfolio.

The simplest explanation is that this is a mostly symbolic move: They want to show that the stable coin and crypto companies they invest in are actually trusted by YC. It starts to look hypocritical if an investor is funding crypto companies and praising them as important breakthroughs, but not actually using them where it’s important.

latexr 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> YC, like most incubators, has always encouraged their companies to use products and services from other companies in their portfolio.

Advising unproven risky businesses to depend on other unproven risky businesses? Doesn’t that just increase the likelihood that something goes wrong?

Aurornis 17 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> Advising unproven risky businesses to depend on other unproven risky businesses?

Read carefully: They’re not actually advising that startups prefer it. They’re allowing it as an option.

It doesn’t mean that it will actually be used. They just don’t want to appear like they’re avoiding the companies they’re funding. It’s a bad look.

Nevermark an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Would you consider it risky for a startup to use its own product?

I would consider that a risk decreaser, because the loop creates a stronger fit signal.

Even more powerful, since across a cohort the encouragement is N-way, or really N^2-way, it actually lowers risk on average the more startups act as each others’ early customers.

And co-adopters benefit from getting unusually responsive suppliers with a strong indirect stake in mutual success.

Encourage isnt a requirement. Adopt only if it makes sense.

jazzyjackson 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Does anyone remember being voluntold to use Skiff for email and calendar, instead of a product that actually handles timezones in event invites?

I'm convinced the point of YC must be something other than launching successful businesses

bombcar 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean it’s obvious that successful businesses are only a side effect of what the point is - a successful exit. And if one big success can be strongarmed to help other ventures exit successfully, they’ll do it.

Why wouldn’t they?

remus 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

From the POV of YC, they don't mind too much if it is a bit risky for any given individual company if it increases the legitimacy and stability of their portfolio as a whole.

direwolf20 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The already 99.9% likelihood?

onion2k 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

YC, like most incubators, has always encouraged their companies to use products and services from other companies in their portfolio.

Are you saying founders don't mount an FTP account using curlftpfs and access it using SVN?

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7e 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But what advantages do stablecoins have?

luke5441 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Seigniorage accrues to private entities instead of the state, enriching the owners of those private entities rather than everyone in the state that issues the currency.

toomim 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Faster and cheaper transactions that don't get locked up by the whims of a bureaucracy. They continue to operate on non-business days.

Aurornis 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That’s also a downside: When your funds can be transferred away by anyone who happens to acquire the key without triggering any fraud prevention or additional verification checks, losing your entire bank account at 4AM Sunday morning becomes much easier.

tucnak 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is why people who happen to own significant amount of crypto typically get hardware wallets

mschild 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That would make it a single point of failure, no? Not a good idea if your company is riding on it.

tucnak 3 hours ago | parent [-]

multisig exists

dsr_ 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Cryptocurrency recapitulates the history of the modern banking system, and illustrates the necessity of regulation on a daily basis.

aurareturn 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes, let's go back to hiding cash and gold under our beds. Maybe buy a machine gun so you can defend it from home intruders.

RobotToaster 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> Yes, let's go back to hiding [...] gold under our beds

The people that did exactly that never had to worry about (hyper)inflation...

Aurornis 30 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The currency is never the only asset or unit of trade in an economy. As long as value and wealth were being created somewhere, inflation can exist.

Gold is interesting because more of it was being mined and produced all the time. There wasn’t even a finite amount of gold.

Thinking that a gold standard means no inflation (or in practical terms, deflation as the population grows) is a modern fantasy.

compass_copium an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In addition to the security issues, they would have to deal with non-negligible transaction costs every time they wanted to convert it to actual money so that they could purchase something. If they were using it as an investment, they had to deal with the opportunity cost of underperforming $SPY.

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pjerem 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Still, they have to worry about them and their family not being kidnapped.

Oh but hey, checkmate, burglar who is threatening to cut my daughter’s finger, my wallet is multisig !

learingsci 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Doesn’t that mean a home invader can break in, torture you a bit and walk off with your millions?

duttish 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I think there was a rash of this kind of this kind of wrench cryptocurrency robberies in the Netherlands a few years ago.

Break in, bash owner about with a wrench, get coins. <Insert xkcd>

aurareturn 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yep, the meme in crypto community is that you can have all the digital security possible but it'll lose to the $5 wrench attack.

fragmede 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

xkcd 538, that is

koakuma-chan 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

[flagged]

ludston 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I bet you can. And I bet that raising the limit takes you a few minutes at most. Or you need a better bank.

koakuma-chan 8 hours ago | parent [-]

> Or you need a better bank.

There are no good banks in Canada.

victorbjorklund 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why do you have a bank? Don’t you use crypto for all your needs? Or does crypto fail you in that?

koakuma-chan 5 hours ago | parent [-]

No one actually accepts crypto

SecretDreams 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If your bank doesn't want to raise the limits, there's probably good reasons behind that.

koakuma-chan 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No, there's not. There are rarely good reasons behind what banks do because these are organizations that are run by mediocre people who are not incentivized to not suck. They don't care at all about anything. This "fraud prevention" thing only gets in my way and doesn't prevent the less sophisticated people from sending their money to India.

jazzyjackson 4 hours ago | parent [-]

  I get money
  You get mad because the bank's shut 
- Charli XCX
selcuka 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> If your bank doesn't want to raise the limits, there's probably good reasons behind that.

Why would their having reasons make me feel better when my payments don't go through? We complain when Apple plays nanny and makes their product a walled garden. How is a bank different? They should be doing their job without causing inconvenience for me.

pertymcpert 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Unnecessary rudeness.

koakuma-chan 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Strong language used for emphasis. I apologize if anyone was offended.

vasco 8 hours ago | parent [-]

It's also a lie, you can pay for many things without raising limits.

koakuma-chan 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Why does the bank decide what I can pay for? That's bullshit.

mschild 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What limit are we talking about though? Credit or debit?

Debit I'd agree would suck because it is your money. Credit cards on the kther hand is you lending mkney from the bank.

koakuma-chan 5 hours ago | parent [-]

They both have limits. I tried to buy socks via Apple Pay and it declined.

nananana9 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Because you put your money there and agreed to their rules.

cess11 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It typically doesn't, it just implements compliance with laws and regulations in your jurisdiction.

Withdrawal and transaction limits are commonly such a thing, politicians get hounded because some people were frauded out of their monies and they feel a need to show that they're doing something about it.

Banking is very international, you can put your money in some other jurisdiction if you'd like to. Many transnational banks are connected to the usual payment providers, you can probably figure something out if you put your mind to it. One way to do it is to start a company, business accounts at banks generally have different limits and then you pay a lawyer or bean counter to clear how to do the books and pay appropriate taxes.

koakuma-chan 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I can only really use Canadian banks because that's what Interac, Canadian system for sending money by email works with. The bank does decide what I can pay for because it limits the amount of money I can spend via Apple Pay (like $500), and in general (like $1000). You need to bring your physical card and call them to temporarily increase the limit to buy anything expensive.

cess11 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Web searching a bit seems to say that e.g. tourists can use their foreign issued cards and typically carry their issuers' limits with them, unless the merchant has their own limits for some reason.

Putting stricter limits on intermediate devices like pocket computers doesn't seem very tyrannical to me. Interac's web site says the typical default limit would be 2-3000 CAD, i.e. 12-1800 euros or so, unless you have a small business account, then it's more like 25000 CAD.

If you often find yourself spending thousands of CAD on a whim, perhaps it would be a good idea to open accounts with a bank that is tailored to people with a lot of money. I'm sure there are some available in Canada.

ludston 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah all of that sounds way more convenient than your grandma irrecoverably losing her life savings because somebody kid fished her for her crypto authentication.

Ekaros 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is there some magic in redeeming them? And by redeeming I mean going to issuer and getting the face value in seconds?

direwolf20 4 hours ago | parent [-]

You can redeem stablecoins in blocks of a million if you are a registered bank. This is the only way to redeem them. Otherwise you can only trade them.

irishcoffee 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

At the end of the day, for better or worse, the US dollar is backed by the US military. Virtual coins are backed by the greater fool.

What a strange toss-up.

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anukin 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Usdc is backed by US dollar denominated treasuries for most major issuers.

bandrami 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's broadly agreed that hasn't been the case for a while now, but that at the moment it's better for everybody if we pretend it still is

Hamuko 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Is there actually any proof of this or is it Tether-tier magic money?

Onavo 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But the stable coins are also backed by the US military. All major USD stablecoins have sanctions mechanisms baked into their smart contract.

See for yourself the blacklist features

https://github.com/circlefin/stablecoin-evm/tree/master/scri...

zx8080 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> US dollar is backed by the US military.

No, it's not. It's not possible to come to the US soldiers with a bunch of US dollars and some demands and get what's demanded in return for the dollars.

Only trust of the other market participants backs the US dollar.

direwolf20 4 hours ago | parent [-]

It's the other way around. If you don't trade in dollars, the military comes and demands that you do.

RealityVoid 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Is the peso backed by the Mexican government? Because I'm afraid of all these militaries coming and knocking down my door to use their money.

baxtr 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I don’t think that matters.

It’s a sign of commitment to something they’ve invested in as OPs says.

csmpltn 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Like a pyramid scheme?

morpheuskafka 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I agree, if you just want to not "waste" the cash while it's sitting, keep it very simple with something like T bills or, if you don't need it immediately, maybe a total market fund.

This also makes sense from the investors point of view, they invested in your company to receive growth from your product/business, not from random stocks you bought with it.

That said, I think there is a distinction between trying to be innovative across the company (ex. Gitlab's open employee handbook, CEO shadows, etc.) which is arguably not a bad thing at all, and this specific case of trying to actively invest company funds. In some cases, a more innovative way of doing things may actually be simpler and less complex than the default way for bigger companies, it just depends on the exact scenario.

robinhouston 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> if you don't need it immediately, maybe a total market fund

That strikes me as unwise. If there’s a sharp downturn in the total market, that’s precisely when you might need to call upon otherwise unneeded cash reserves.

duxup an hour ago | parent [-]

Agreed. I would think placing it in something more conservative would be a better choice. Presumably the company will want those funds available.

factorialboy 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Relevant question: How many YCombinator portfolio companies issue stable coins.

Stablecoin-adjacent YC companies:

• Bridge (acquired by Stripe for $1.1B) — stablecoin infrastructure, now offers "Open Issuance" platform for others to launch stablecoins

• PrimeVault (S2022) — helps enterprises issue & manage digital assets/stablecoins

• BlindPay (W2025) — stablecoin API for payments

• Coinbase (S2012) — issues USDC (with Circle)

blitzar 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> What's the best way to invest all the money our company just raised?

You should invest in some YC startups with your YC investment money.

sharperguy 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not all stablecoins are intended as investments. For many it's just a way to send money internationally without dealing with the SWIFT system, waiting periods, banks losing payments etc.

BLKNSLVR 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It does seem ironic that a startup would immediately pivot to devoting some of its precious time and attention to becoming a hedge fund just as they've got the funding for their 'startup idea'. On the other hand, any big whack of cash should have an optimisation plan, lest it be wasted. Does YC provide templates?

Oversimplifying:

X = full amount of raised capital

Y = expected spend over 12 months

Z = $ value of percentage contingency for 12 months

Y+Z goes into use-it-however-and-whenever-you-want account (likely low to no interest)

X - (Y+Z) goes into a 12 month higher interest account, ideally staying untouched until maturity (stake the stablecoins in this context)

I'm skeptical of crpyto holding companies though, explicitly because of the lack of regulation. The likes of BlockFi, Celsius, and FTX gives me the cold sweats. Regulation in the US is notoriously lacking even in well established finance and banking, never mind the crypto 'industry' which was always high-percentage grifters, and now the Epstein files has added 'morally corrupt' tags to more of them.

Recipe for sleepless nights, which is already a problem for a startup founders isn't it?

wmf 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Just a money market account or something (e.g. https://mercury.com/treasury ).

Also X=Y for almost all startups.

fakedang 7 hours ago | parent [-]

The point is, treasury accounts are not designed to manage crypto. So that's another layer of money management that startups have to deal with, when they could simply ignore it using a treasury account.

But of course, YC being YC will fund another startup which will help other startups manage their stablecoin portfolios...

Also note that in most jurisdictions, you cannot pay employees with crypto, stable coins or not. Nor can you pay suppliers. Or AWS/GCP/Azure.

This is literally a textbook example of, in YC's words, a solution in search of a problem.

blitzar 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Is there no treasury desk at YC that takes care of this for everyone?!

Seems sub optimal to drop millions into a founders bank account for couple of years runway.

dboon 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I like your writing. Do you have a blog or publish anywhere else?

airstrike 9 hours ago | parent [-]

I second this motion

aswegs8 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I third this motion

smallmancontrov 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah but after a series of Big Prints we finally managed to make an inflation spike, a run on Silicon Valley Bank, the US President openly contemplating dollar devaluation, "Sell America trade" working for the first time in 50 years, the marginal buyer of treasuries eliminating the last dove on the path to war, and precious metals whipping around like meme stocks. "Park the money in a USD money market at SVB" used to be not just OK, but universally agreed to be obviously OK, which had value of its own. Now it's just OK. Probably. I hope.

Will we see some pivots into bullshit crypto holding companies? Sure, but VC returns are notoriously lottery-ticket distributed and 0 is 0 however you get there. I'd hazard a bet that the number of otherwise-successful companies who die due to this policy rounds to 0, while the probability of an inflationary wrecking ball that wipes out an entire batch of otherwise promising startups in the absence of such a policy is... north of zero.

To be clear, I don't think this is due to a special property of crypto, just the flexibility to get away from USD in case of emergency.

EDIT: maybe 24/7 trading could be an argument. It would be a meme for the ages if a raft of startups survived because they were up hustling and grinding at 2AM when the boats hit the Taiwan Strait.

cj 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You’re describing an event that would wipe out the US economy and trying to protect against that with stable coins, or at least that’s the impression I’m getting.

If the US falls apart, your startup will too. No matter how well preserved your cash reserves are.

The US going to war or entering hyperinflation is probably at the bottom of most founders lists of existential worries. Not a risk to mitigate (it’s a risk you need to accept since there’s nothing you can do - worrying about it won’t help)

Also, worth mentioning that no one lost money with SVB’s collapse. One might argue it was an incredibly smart decision for YC to recommend people bank at SVB since if SVB goes under, virtually all LP’s and everyone in the VC community will go under too (too big to fail, so they won’t, or if they do, everyone else fails too — kind of like AWS us-east-1)

smallmancontrov 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Nah, hedging war is a meme, but I labeled it as such.

Startups that wanted to treasury in BTC or GLD, were told no, and were vindicated in hindsight are not a meme. Startups that were force-fed 10% inflation and a collapsing bank aren't a meme. That happened.

You can complain that it's irrational to hedge against these things which have been happening an awful lot lately, but you aren't the one who gets to decide. If an enterprising alternative VC is peeling away good founders by being flexible on this point, YC's option is to compete or let the deals go.

direwolf20 4 hours ago | parent [-]

It probably costs you more than 10% of your time to avoid the 10% inflation.

8note 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> kind of like AWS us-east-1

is this the right comparison? us-east-1 goes down a lot to an extent because everything goes down at the same time, rather than as a collective need to stay up. its one of the worst AWS regions if what you care about is stability and up time. too big to fail does not add extra up time guarantees to that region

j45 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No one might have lost their money with the collapse of the banks but with the large amount of new money printed, the value of each dollar will continue to erode.

Inflation and hyper-inflation can wipe out debts with future money that's cheaper more easily in some ways. I forget where I had read or learned more about this in other countries that had experienced it.

groundzeros2015 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> the US President openly contemplating dollar devaluation

Why won’t the fed raise rates?

no_wizard 13 hours ago | parent [-]

The fear is the loss of safe guards and independence of the Federal Reserve. Trump is actively trying to remove safe guards and independence that would allow the Federal Reserve to counteract anything like this. If for instance Trump wants to hold interest rates low regardless of what anyone is telling him, he wants that power[0][1].

The upcoming decision by the Supreme Court on case Trump v. Cook is about this very issue[2]

[0]: https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/29/economy/federal-reserve-indep...

[1]: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/why-the-federal-reserves...

[2]: https://hls.harvard.edu/today/will-the-federal-reserve-remai...

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groundzeros2015 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If they won’t raise rates for fear of losing independence it’s already over.

no_wizard 12 hours ago | parent [-]

If Trump v. Cook is a loss for Trump, they won't be in fear of losing independence, as I understand it.

groundzeros2015 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

Which branch of government is the fed under?

abduhl 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Trump v Cook is not upcoming it has been argued already

https://www.oyez.org/cases/2025/25A312

no_wizard 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Edited! Though it was suppose to be written as upcoming decision, as yes the case was argued already but not ruled on

nubg 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Love your writing style!

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polishdude20 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Then again, to play devils advocate, doing all the other stuff in a new way might also help your company break out of the cycle that typically impacts startups. It may be that the other things you do apart from your product are what make it successful.

dannyw 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Figuring out a better way to ~~invest~~ speculate with your company's balance sheet is seriously unlikely to improve the trajectory of your company.

debo_ 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

MicroStrategy?

wmf 10 hours ago | parent [-]

It's about to collapse for the second time.

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stackghost 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean if you have a significant chunk of free cash sitting around there's almost no reason not to put a portion of it in 3-6 month Treasuries or something.

The return won't be much but it's better than letting the cash sit idle and evaporate due to inflation

luke5441 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In a competitive banking landscape the bank would do it for you, then just give you a competitive interest rate on your account. Is that not present in the US?

NickC25 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Uh, that's not "better".

If you have a huge chunk of change sitting around, you've raised too much or too early, and you've successfully diluted yourself for zero reason.

If you actually had a reason to raise a lot of money, you'd do with the money what you promised the investors (who gave you the money) you would.

I've raised before. I raised what I needed. Not a penny more because I didn't need the money.

carleverett 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Let’s see:

- 12 months runway - $100k/mo. burn rate - 4% APR

Gives you about $25k interest.

Seems worth it to me.

stackghost 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I too have raised before.

I'm not saying raising and then buying T-Bills is better than just raising less.

I'm saying if you find yourself with excess cash, you can't just un-raise. In that scenario, then short term T Bills are strictly better than cash.

NickC25 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The question is why you'd use money you raised for anything but the reason you raised it. You've probably raised a shit ton more than I have, but hear me out - when one raises, there's generally a timeline of fund deployment from the startup's UoF, right? That's how it was done in my case - we tell the investor what we need, why we need it, and when we need it, etc. And then if the investor agrees to invest, it's not just a lump sum sitting in the bank - a good amount of that money gets deployed to help the startup fulfill its mission.

I get that if you're running super lean and you've raised enough to run lean for a while and use cash when you need to, but at the same time why raise more than you have need for?

cj 9 hours ago | parent [-]

I've seen VC's who care a lot about understanding how their companies are going to spend the money. And other VC's who don't even ask the question, or accept generalities like "hiring, scaling" with equally loose timelines.

The latter group most commonly in the bay area.

NickC25 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

>And other VC's who don't even ask the question, or accept generalities like "hiring, scaling" with equally loose timelines.

Which is crazy to me.

You write a check for a lot of money, and don't care how/when/where the money is spent? Or you accept bullshit vague answers?

That's not due diligence, that's deliberate ignorance.

hollerith 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>if you find yourself with excess cash, you can't just un-raise

I always thought a startup can return cash to investors as long as the payments or dispersements are proportional to the amount of stock owned.

stackghost 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Depends on the funding vehicle. If you're on a SAFE, and still a going concern, then I think returning investor funds would trigger a priced round and you'd end up converting at a (hopefully) high valuation

UqWBcuFx6NV4r 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This comment really shows how far the SV VC culture still is from running profitable businesses with solid fundamentals. No surprise that I am hearing this on the same website where people come to act like hard-done-by factory workers whenever [incredibly bloated and dysfunctional FAANG] lays people off after facing the real-world financial realities.

For the love of God, no. Do not do that. The cycle begins when you take the money. How there are still people here that don’t get this, I don’t understand.

raw_anon_1111 14 hours ago | parent [-]

The purpose of VC’s were never to fund companies until they become profitable, it’s the find the “bigger fool”.

Occasionally it’s the public market…

https://medium.com/@Arakunrin/the-post-ipo-performance-of-y-...

Most often for successful exits, it’s to get acquired and shut down the original product with a “Our Amazing Journey” blog post.

no_wizard 13 hours ago | parent [-]

That chart is telling about the durability of this business, but do we actually know the precise point at which YCombinator as an entity sold out?

For instance, I know Coinbase may be down -22% from the IPO price, but that doesn't mean YCombinator lost money nor made very little. If they, for instance, sold off during the first few days of the IPO they would have made out quite well.

There's also the whole question of how much money did YCombinator put in vs what they got out.

Without knowing this, about all the chart tells me is YCombinator is not a predicated on building exceedingly durable businesses, but it doesn't mean they lost money on any of these investments either.

raw_anon_1111 13 hours ago | parent [-]

YC isn’t the “bigger fool”, their business model is great for them. Of course they made money at IPO. They don’t care about durable businesses. More than likely they sold at IPO.

no_wizard 12 hours ago | parent [-]

I realize, but that's my entire point: the durability of the business as represented by these valuations says nothing meaningful about YCombinator startups other than they aren't building alot of highly durable businesses.

Devasta 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not once in mankind's history has any great product or feat been enhanced or achieved through the use of timesheets.

Don't get bogged down with that stuff.

bandrami 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"A marathon sounds like a really long way to run. Maybe if I simultaneously juggle it will distract me from how tired I am."

HaZeust 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You've taken VC money at that point. Hate to say it, but doing that means you're voluntarily going into the cycle with no intent to break it.