>Deno Sandbox gives you lightweight Linux microVMs (running in the Deno Deploy cloud)

The real question is can the microVMs run in just plain old linux, self-hosted.

Everyone wants to lock you in.

Unfortunately there's no other way to make money. If you're 100% liberally licensed, you just get copied. AWS/GCP clone your product, offer the same offering, and they take all the money.

It sucks that there isn't a middle ground. I don't want to have to build castles in another person's sandbox. I'd trust it if they gave me the keys to do the same. I know I don't have time to do that, but I want the peace of mind.

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ushakov 5 hours ago | parent [-]

we have 100% open-source Sandboxes at E2B

git: https://github.com/e2b-dev/infra

wiki: https://deepwiki.com/e2b-dev/infra

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echelon 4 hours ago | parent [-]

This is what I like to see!

Not sure what your customers look like, but I'd for one also be fine with "fair source" licenses (there are several - fair source, fair code, Defold license, etc.)

These give customers 100% control but keep Amazon, Google, and other cling-on folks like WP Engine from reselling your work. It avoids the Docker, Elasticsearch, Redis fate.

"OSI" is a submarine from big tech hyperscalers that mostly take. We should have gone full Stallman, but fair source is a push back against big tech.

	▲	ushakov 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		we aren’t worried about that. when we were starting out we figured there was no solution that would satisfy our requirements for running untrusted code. so we had to build our own. the reason we open-sourced this is because we want everyone to be able to run our Sandboxes - in contrast to the majority of our competitors who’s goal is to lock you in to their offering. with open-source you have the choice, and luckily Manus, Perplexity, Nvidia choose us for their workloads. (opinions my own)