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emsign 6 hours ago

> because they believe it will lead to economic prosperity and good jobs returning to their community.

Maybe they say that but it's justification for their racist believes, which they still don't want to talk openly about. It just sounds better when someone invents some "benefits" of it. Like wild claims in an ad is helping the buyer justify their impulse shopping.

badc0ffee 6 hours ago | parent [-]

70 million Americans voted for him. His biggest demographic win compared to the last election was non-white men.

Immediately dismissing this as racism isn't going to help you understand it, or help the Democrats beat the Republicans.

emsign 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

To the contrary! They were tricked to believe that they were part of society. They aren't. By voting for Trump they reassured themselves that it won't happen to them. Often times racism against the newest group of immigrants coming from the group of immigrants before them is seen by the latter as a rite of passage to be accepted into US society.

The Irish used to be in a similar position like the people from South America today. Now they are seen as white but before WWI they weren't seen as white by the WASPs. And it's totally normal for some of the second or third generation immigrants to become racist against new immigrants. Rite of passage.

overfeed 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> The Irish used to be in a similar position like the people from South America today

To your earlier point: Boston racism is now legendary (see Celtics fans)

JoshTriplett 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's zero-sum thinking, "the pie isn't big enough and can't get bigger and I'm afraid, so I'm going to hurt other people so that I don't get hurt".

emsign 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes. And they still remember where they are coming from and they fear that they might again lose their piece of the pie to the groups that are considered more "American", so they feel the need to prove their place in society by cheering the leader who is preaching that the pie is getting smaller and that someone has to leave the table. This fear is handed down over generations and for some families or communities it transforms into hatred. This mechanism is very often played by amoral populists because it works so well.

Many of the most disgusting and radical Democracy hating people in Trumps inner circle are Catholics by the way. Go figure.

starkparker 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Notable and recent: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clym85ev64lo

> When one-time Democrat Sam Negron headed to the polls to cast a ballot for Donald Trump in 2024, he did so with one thing on his mind above all - the economy.

> "I didn't like paying $7 for eggs," said Negron, a Pennsylvania state constable in the majority-Latino city of Allentown. "But basically it was all his talking points… making the US a strong country again."

...

> One poll, from Pew, suggested that 93% of Latinos who cast their votes for Trump rated the economy as their primary issue, with violent crime and immigration trailing far behind.

> Data from the new CBS poll shows that a significant majority of Latinos - 61% - disapprove of Trump's handling of the economy, while 69% disapprove of his handling of inflation. The vast majority said they judge the performance of the US economy through prices.

pbhjpbhj 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> When one-time Democrat Sam Negron headed to the polls to cast a ballot for Donald Trump in 2024

Did he just wake up from a coma?

Ylpertnodi 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The dems are just as corrupt, just wiith a nicer smile. Eu citizen, here - all politicians are bent. Anecdata: Anyone who votes for a politician should stfu, stop complaining and live with it. Why should i suffer alone? Disenfranchised? Not me - idgaf. I just hope the eu gets its act together and actually does something, but it will be difficult; language alone, being one of them, and "my pie", another.