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verdverm 6 hours ago

France24 article on this: https://www.france24.com/en/france/20260203-paris-prosecutor...

lol, they summoned Elon for a hearing on 420

"Summons for voluntary interviews on April 20, 2026, in Paris have been sent to Mr. Elon Musk and Ms. Linda Yaccarino, in their capacity as de facto and de jure managers of the X platform at the time of the events,

why_at 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>The Paris prosecutor's office said it launched the investigation after being contacted by a lawmaker alleging that biased algorithms in X were likely to have distorted the operation of an automated data processing system.

I'm not at all familiar with French law, and I don't have any sympathy for Elon Musk or X. That said, is this a crime?

Distorted the operation how? By making their chatbot more likely to say stupid conspiracies or something? Is that even against the law?

int_19h 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Holocaust denial is illegal in France, for one, and Grok did exactly that on several occasions.

pyrale an hour ago | parent [-]

Also, csam and pornographic content using the likeness of unwilling people. Grok’s recent shit was bound to have consequences.

mschuster91 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> I'm not at all familiar with French law, and I don't have any sympathy for Elon Musk or X. That said, is this a crime?

GDPR and DMA actually have teeth. They just haven't been shown yet because the usual M.O. for European law violators is first, a free reminder "hey guys, what you're doing is against the law, stop it, or else". Then, if violations continue, maybe two or three rounds follow... but at some point, especially if the violations are openly intentional (and Musk's behavior makes that very very clear), the hammer gets brought down.

Our system is based on the idea that we institute complex regulations, and when they get introduced and stuff goes south, we assume that it's innocent mistakes first.

And in addition to that, there's the geopolitical aspect... basically, hurt Musk to show Trump that, yes, Europe means business and has the means to fight back.

As for the allegations:

> The probe has since expanded to investigate alleged “complicity” in spreading pornographic images of minors, sexually explicit deepfakes, denial of crimes against humanity and manipulation of an automated data processing system as part of an organised group, and other offences, the office said in a statement Tuesday.

The GDPR/DMA stuff just was the opener anyway. CSAM isn't liked by authorities at all, and genocide denial (we're not talking about Palestine here, calm your horses y'all, we're talking about Holocaust denial) is a crime in most European jurisdiction (in addition to doing the right-arm salute and other displays of fascist insignia). We actually learned something out of WW2.

DaSHacka 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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miltonlost 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I wonder how he'll try to get out of being summoned. Claim 4/20 is a holiday that he celebrates?

verdverm 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's voluntary

dgxyz 5 hours ago | parent [-]

They'll make a judgement without him if he doesn't turn up.

pyrale an hour ago | parent [-]

An "audition en tant que témoin libre" is more or less the way for an investigation to give a chance to give their side of the story. Musk is not likely to be personally tried here.

flohofwoe 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Claim 4/20 is a holiday that he celebrates?

Given his recent "far right" bromance that's probably not a good idea ;)

verdverm 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It hadn't occurred to me that might be the reason they picked 420

layer8 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It’s unlikely, because putting the month first is a US thing. In France it would be 20/04, or “20 avril”.

embedding-shape 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Still, stoner-cultures in many countries in Europe celebrate 4-20, definitively a bunch of Frenchies getting extra stoned that day. It's probably the de-facto "international cannabis day" in most places in the world, at least the ones influenced by US culture which reached pretty far in its heyday.

miltonlost 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Oh, that was 100% in my mind when I wrote that. I was wondering how explicit to be with Musk's celebrating being for someone's birthday.

sophacles 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wouldn't celebrating hitler's birthday be good for his far-right bromance?

LAC-Tech 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We'll know he's gone too far if he has to take another "voluntary" trip to Israel

GuinansEyebrows 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

you would perhaps be shocked to learn how right-leaning the money folks behind the legal and legacy cannabis markets actually are. money is money.

inquirerGeneral 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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BrandoElFollito 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why "lol"?

verdverm 4 hours ago | parent [-]

420 is a stoner number, stoners lol a lot, thought of Elmo's failed joint smoking on JRE before I stopped watching

...but then other commenters reminded me there is another thing on the same date, which might have been more the actual troll at Elmo to get him all worked up

BrandoElFollito 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Well yes, if France24 was using "20 April 2026" as we write here, there would be no misunderstanding.

I believe people are looking too much into 20 April → 4/20 → 420

LightBug1 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

April 20th most definitely is international stoners day. And I like what the French have done here!

verdverm 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Thanks for the cultural perspective / reminder, yes that is definitely an American automatic translation

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xdennis an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> lol, they summoned Elon for a hearing on 420

No. It's 20 April in the rest of the world: 204.