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sigmoid10 6 hours ago

As someone who has gone from 100% Slack in startups to all-in Teams in big corpo, I disagree. Teams won't even display all office file formats without you having to open the dedicated app. And if it does it's usually a half-baked browser mess. And don't even get me started on the UX or meeting options or mobile support or the complete lack of a dedicated Linux client. I don't need one app to do everything half-assed, I need one app that does exactly what it's meant for well. Preferably on every platform.

thewebguyd 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> I don't need one app to do everything half-assed

That's primarily why it sucks, and that seems to be Microsoft's standard operating procedure. Everything they put out is in the category of "does everything, but half-assed with a web of fragile "integrations" that break if you look at it funny."

Worse, it's all SharePoint all the way down. Every team (and private channel!) is a SharePoint site, every user's OneDrive in the same tenant is a personal SharePoint Site. Every M365 Group gets its own SharePoint site (and mailbox). Creating a Team also creates an M365 group, but not vice versa.

Heaven forbid you rename something in the stack or you are in for a world of pain.

It's also by design that way. SharePoint storage is expensive, and boy what a disaster it is to ever try and get your data out of it.

Yet, for some reason, companies keep buying it and keep using it, letting Microsoft suck them in and hold them there for eternity.

If you're starting a new company, never, ever, buy anything Microsoft. Just don't go down that road. It's not worth it.

orochimaaru 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s not why your big corp chooses teams and the msft suite. From a corp perspective they don’t care about your edge case. There’s only - is it good for 90% of my use cases across the enterprise? And - do I get a bundle discount? Last but not the least - do I need to expend developer resources on it vs anything else?

Yeah, there is half assed stuff. But it’s not what most of the big corp uses anyway. So your little dev specific use case isn’t going to get much traction.

Teams does one thing well. It can do group chats and team calls. That’s most of what people use it for. And your corp gets a discount bundle.

calgoo 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Our CEO Decided to use his own phone, use zoom instead of the corporate Teams, and uses ChatGPT where the rest of us are stuck with MS copilot test licenses. I guess its good to be at the top!

joe_mamba 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Reminds me when at my previous company, management got themselves top macbooks for filing excel sheets and replying to emails, while rank and file engineers got the budget Lenovos with 8GB RAM

orochimaaru 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Depends on company size and how much influence legal, security and asset protection have.

Usually at big corp I haven’t seen a ceo actually schedule their own calls or deal with day to day bullshit. They have a whole team of staff for that.

0cf8612b2e1e 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If you don’t want a half assed simulacra version, shouldn’t you prefer Teams open the native application?