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Migrate Wizard – IMAP Based Email Migration Tool(migratewizard.com)
22 points by techstuff123 5 hours ago | 21 comments
cromka 10 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I am in the process of migrating from GMail and Proton using imapsync, since Proton's built-in tool imported some 95% of emails only.

Turns out Proton is super picky about RFC compliance and will reject anything that doesn't met the criteria, which sucks because GMail does exactly the opposite and will take almost anything you throw at it.

So I have so far written about 7 different regexes to fix some specific mailer issues to make them RFC compliant, with plenty more to go. And even then it still somewhat sucks because I am, effectively, modifying the emails to a state they were not received/sent in.

Terretta 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I love imapsync:

https://imapsync.lamiral.info

This is the way projects used to be, and surprisingly excellent ones still are.

The amount of knowledge built into this is incredible:

https://imapsync.lamiral.info/S/news.shtml

// imapsync did 14M to 21M mailboxes transfers per month in 2024, or 0.22% of ALL email traffic

EvanAnderson 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I haven't had excuse to use imapsync for awhile. I remember using it fondly in the past. I definitely hadn't looked at the site in years.

I see that there's a free (for up to 3GB, pay for more) migration service offered there now, too: https://imapsync.lamiral.info/X/

That's a pretty cool way to support the project.

1718627440 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

imapsync is slower and doesn't support bidirectional sync. It however handles message identity better than mbsync (http://isync.sourceforge.net/) and supports using different authorization and authentication. For administering our mailserver, I first used imapsync and then patched mbsync to support the Auth header.

dabedee 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Email migration is genuinely painful and I am sure there's a real market here, so I am not trying to discourage you. But why should I trust a third party with my IMAP credentials?

"Credentials encrypted in memory only and deleted immediately after migration".

I have no way to audit/verify this claim. You're essentially asking users to hand over the keys to their entire email history on faith.

markstos 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yep, and no ISO 27001 or SOC II, nor is the location of the country of operation disclosed, let alone any name associated with it.

masfuerte 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

This is illegal in most places. Business websites are required to identify the legal entity operating the business. Failing to do this is a huge red flag.

newscracker 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It doesn’t explicitly state anything about the email contents in the privacy policy page. People generally trust their email providers to not snoop in their emails. I wonder why anyone should trust a cloud based service (such as this).

markstos 2 hours ago | parent [-]

There's also no names listed of anyone associated with the project, nor they mention the country where they are located, so you don't even know which sets of laws applies.

bm3 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm sure the MigrationWiz guys will appreciate your name.

I also can't imagine there is much demand for IMAP only email migration services these days.

Terr_ 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Perhaps not much, but last year I was looking at using IMAP as an export/import path for a relative's old Eudora mails to some much-more-recent client. I insisted on it, after I found out it could no longer make a secure connection to their e-mail server.

That said, I was saved/pleased by Eudora2Unix [0], one of those projects that represents a very long slow burn of successive people with a similar niche struggle. You might think Thunderbird would have an import tool for that, but it's been so many years it didn't survive...

[0] https://github.com/jonabbey/eudora2unix

warrenski 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Out of curiosity, did you have much luck using Eudora's IMAP to do the export?

Terr_ 28 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yes, actually. I could (in Eudora) add an IMAP account and drag individual messages into it, and then later launch Thunderbird to pull from the same account. I am less-certain about issues around nested folders, which seem to be a magnet for oddities when it comes to e-mail clients and servers.

One of the reasons I kept looking for other approaches is due to how Eudora handles attachments. In this case, many of them had been "detached" from the message they came from. In other words, the encoded attachments in the message body had been transformed to a separate real files on disk, and the message body had been shortened to contain pointer/link to the local file path in a massive "Attachments" folder. (Not sure exactly how it handled name collisions.) So uploading the message to IMAP would sometimes leave the attachment(s) behind.

The linked version of Eudora2Unix (unlike the Sourceforge version) tries to reverse this process, re-embedding attachments back into the message. It doesn't always work, but I suspect some of the failures are that the file content was deleted by the user to free up disk space, without removing the associated e-mail.

Another plus is that I could just grab all the files for the user and then promise to come back with something better, as opposed to babysitting the upload/download process.

markstos 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm working on one this week, from a cPanel-hosted email to Google Workspace. There are probably still quite a number this category will still be happening.

Then there's all the people who want to exit Big Tech or US-based companies right now.

digiown 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What is the advantage of this tool over, you know, just using Thunderbird or another MUA to copy your emails to the new mailbox?

1718627440 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Thunderbird only supports moving from one mailbox to another, it doesn't support syncing whole namespaces. It also doesn't support syncing with namespace rewriting or syncing flags, timestamps or access rights. It does not allow using different authorization and authentication and is unsuitable for large syncs as you can't resume anything or have a progress bar. It is also pretty slow, because it does one mail at a time and is just not designed for this.

Note that I used the proper IMAP terms. A mailbox is what the layman probably calls a folder or directory, a namespace is what the laymen probably would call a mailbox or account.

kiwijamo 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I wonder if it includes workarounds for Google IMAP bugs etc. Some years ago I migrated over 10 years worth of emails from Google to Fastmail and I ran into a lot of issues with Google's buggy IMAP implementation. Things like a random 1 in every 1000 email failing to delete so I would have random emails still remaning. I found out it was a known issue which Google pretty much decided they WONTFIX. I later found Fastmail had its own migration tool that (I presume) has workarounds for various bugs in other providers IMAP implentation making it easier than using e.g. Thunderbird to do it. If I could go back in time and use a tool like this that has a way to work around Google's bugs that would have saved a lot of my time.

blibble an hour ago | parent [-]

I moved from gmail to fastmail a few years ago

and being the cynical sort of person that I am, I didn't trust the fastmail importer

so I ran it, and also wrote my own implementation using the gmail api (NOT imap), and another using the fastmail jmap api, and reconciled them

100% match (bar the "Muted" folder, which fastmail ignored)

pretty much perfect

techstuff123 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You could use Thunderbird, but it’s slow for large mailboxes and multiple accounts. Being cloud-based, Migrate Wizard moves email faster, tracks progress, retries on errors, and supports incremental syncs - all without running a client locally.

blibble 2 hours ago | parent [-]

does it matter how long it takes if you're going to do it once?

last month I moved 20 years of email

I started offlineimap before I went to bed and it finished before I woke up

techstuff123 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Migrate Wizard is a fast, secure IMAP email migration service that helps developers and teams move email data between providers with zero downtime.

It supports large mailboxes, preserves full data integrity, requires no setup, and works with any IMAP-compatible email service.