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| ▲ | Neeek 23 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Just to be clear, I don't think this is useful or good legislation. While the idea that the state is a shady body that's out to fleece an honest and unsuspecting peoples is a great story beat, I just don't think it's particularly accurate to reality and we shouldn't pretend that it is just because it sounds good in a HN comment. | |
| ▲ | HNisCIS 24 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Don't conflate "populace" with "lobbying groups". The populace wants health care and this ain't it. | | |
| ▲ | wtcactus 24 days ago | parent | next [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | HNisCIS 23 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Uh, Marx is the one who said "Under no pretext..." but who's keeping score at this point. Yes, I get that you're trying to express a deeply RWNJ partisan view but as a proud LWNJ I must express that the real world is much more complicated than "commies are nuts yo". Perhaps the issue is rampant authoritarianism? | | | |
| ▲ | KingMob 23 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Who, Mamdani? He's a democratic socialist, not a communist. It's like you just confused RAM with SSD because they both involve gigabytes. | | |
| ▲ | wtcactus 23 days ago | parent [-] | | "If there was any system that could guarantee each person housing, whether you call it the abolition of private property or you call it, you know, just a statewide housing guarantee, it is preferable to what is going on right now.", Mamdani, 2020 "We have to ensure we are unapologetic about our socialism", Mamdani, 2021 "There are also other issues we firmly believe in [...] weather is the end goal of seizing the means of production", Mamdani, 2021 "We will replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism.", Mamdani, 2026 It's funny. You people go up in arms calling Elon Musk a fascist because he made a suspicious gesture with his right hand. But, then you have a guy outright telling you he wants to "seize the means of production" and you make excuses on why he is not actually a communist. | | |
| ▲ | kortex 23 days ago | parent | next [-] | | >
Anna Grzymala-Busse, a Stanford University international studies professor, said that seizing the means of production is a socialist and communist goal. "The difference is that with communism, there is also one ruling party that brooks no opposition and no pluralist civil society," she said. https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/jul/03/seizing-means... Collectivism and some amount of state controlled means of production are typical of many leftist systems. America already does this in many places: military, power, education, civil works. Communism stands out among other -isms on the left in that it is single-party and incompatible with democracy. > suspicious gesture with his right hand It was a Nazi salute. Don't believe me? Go to a crowded street corner and do the "suspicious gesture," and gauge the reaction. | | |
| ▲ | 9875325996435 23 days ago | parent [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | KingMob 22 days ago | parent [-] | | He doesn't have a point, because he doesn't know how socialism and communism are alike, and how they differ. He's arguing against what he imagined I wrote. |
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| ▲ | KingMob 22 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Again, you're just demonstrating that you don't know the definitions, relationships, and differences between, communism and socialism. Not that anyone defending Musk's nazi salute should be trusted on anything whatsoever. | |
| ▲ | krainboltgreene 23 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] |
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| ▲ | Neeek 24 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] |
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| ▲ | Dig1t 24 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Do you have any evidence that any significant number of Americans want this restriction on 3D printers? | | |
| ▲ | Neeek 23 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I think the representatives pushing for this legislation is evidence that a significant portion of their polled constituents want restrictions on printed ghost guns. Is that more or less believable than a manufacturing lobby pushing legislators in NY state for printer DRM? | | |
| ▲ | Dig1t 23 days ago | parent [-] | | >I think the representatives pushing for this legislation is evidence Why is that considered evidence? There are many cases of elected representatives doing things that do not align with the wishes of their constituents. There are also many cases of regulators regulating things that their constituents don't care about at all, but help a politician's career by building their reputation as one of "getting things done". Actual evidence would be polling, citizen organizations, donations etc. None of which seem to exist for this issue. |
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| ▲ | SoftTalker 23 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | When you vote for people who have a regulatory mentality, you tend to get a government that responds to any problem with regulation. |
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