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dangus 21 hours ago

I really dislike this whole debate because I never wanted to be lumped in with 3D gun printing weirdos.

When I first told my very non-technical somewhat new friend about my 3D printer, they looked really concerned and told me they weren’t comfortable with it because of how people make weapons with them.

I’ve had to spend a lot of time building trust and showing that I’m not one of those weirdos.

Ultimately I don’t think any kind of printed gun banning law has a tangible impact (it’s not like guns with serial numbers aren’t regularly getting away with murder), but what I don’t like is that the law and discussion around it validates this stupidity and continues to lump me in with gun weirdos.

It’s weird to own a gun. It’s weird to print a gun. I don’t even think the 2nd amendment is very necessary and is clearly not capable of stopping tyranny (and the amendment itself says that’s not its purpose anyway).

At this point we could probably get a coalition of Trump cult members who have no consistent ideology (Trump doesn’t like guns) and “liberal pansies” to just repeal the 2nd amendment and become a normal country.

BanazirGalbasi 20 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This seems like a problem with your friend moreso than with 3D printing in general. Most people I know who hear about 3D printing don't immediately think of making weapons. Toys and weird gadgets tend to come to mind first, or maybe an office accessory like my laptop stands. The fact that your friend immediately jumped to the conclusion that it's for making weapons says a lot about the way they think about the world.

I agree that the law seems to validate the viewpoint, but I disagree that it's a common one, nor that you should have had to spend time building that trust.

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tastyfreeze 20 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

A normal country? Like Iran that just slaughters or imprisons anybody that speaks or acts against the government. 2A is to stop that situation from ever happening. Is the government starts shooting we will shoot back. Before then we would prefer to resolve our grievances peacefully in court.

dangus 20 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Most countries aren’t Iran. Are the French unable to protest without the 2nd amendment?

Did the 2nd amendment save Mark Pretti from that exact situation happening to him?

tastyfreeze 19 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No, most countries are not like Iran. There are enough examples of governments deciding to slaughter unarmed people within their boarders that the majority in the US sees giving up private guns as a folly of the greatest order.

If a populace gives up their weapons they become ultimately powerless against armed aggressors. 2A first purpose is to make citizens the first line of defense against invasion. This is supposed to be in place of a standing army from a time that a town could be wiped off the map by invading forces before any military force could be dispatched.

Yes, a permanent standing army is unconstitutional (Article 1 Section 8).

sidewndr46 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You might want to read up on French history if you think they are not capable of bloodshed.

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ActorNightly 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>. 2A is to stop that situation from ever happening. Is the government starts shooting we will shoot back

The fact that ICE are still parading around on the street has put in a nail in the coffin that 2A is absolutely pointless.

If anything, USA citizens deserve to have their guns taken away forcibly just because they could use them but didn't.

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int_19h 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The problem is that the people with guns also happen to be, by and large, the people who very much support what ICE is doing. Whereas those who oppose it have enthusiastically disarmed themselves.