It should be uncontroversial that introducing shit into an environment where it doesn't belong is a bad idea, yet many people remain unconvinced that dumping tons of carbon dioxide a year into the atmosphere or tons of fertilizer by-products into the oceans is a bad idea.

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nxm 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It's less that but rather the hypocrisy of promoting burdensome regulations and bans implemented in one county (e.g. Germany) which hurts domestic industry and raises costs for its citizens, all while being silent on countries like China and India continuing to massively build more and more coal fired power plants

	▲	breakyerself an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		1. Germany industrialized 100 years before China. It's been burning large quantities of coal for far longer. 2. Germany or at least the EU can and should impose a carbon fee on imports related to a given nations carbon emissions/reductions. 3. Economically transitioning to renewables is better for a nations economy than continuing to burn fossil fuels anyway. Renewables are cheaper. Pointing to another bad actor as an excuse to continue to be a bad actor we learn is not a moral position somewhere around 5 years old.
	▲	dlisboa 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Unfortunately there is hypocrisy to go around. Here's the argument China and India will use: "coal and fossil fuel always was for all its history and still is the largest portion of Germany's energy mix. It's hardly in a position to ask other countries to stop." "China and India have the right to industrialize themselves using the same tools Western countries have used. China is leading the world in alternative energy manufacturing making clean energy profitable and India is the 4th largest renewable energy producer."
	▲	adrianN an hour ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		China is also building more renewables than everyone else combined.
	▲	MuskIsAntidemo an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
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