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| ▲ | UncleSlacky 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| The author has updated the site to address this: "Note: I’ve seen some online chatter about the possibility that the footage shared in this post could be AI generated. Which is pretty depressing, but here we are I suppose. I just wanted to clarify that it is not. It would be pretty daft of me to be knowingly posting AI generated footage on a blog that I’ve worked hard to keep on the up and up. The footage was captured by a CBS news team, and they followed up with an interview of Atari employee (I’ll share that at a later date). Same goes for the images – they’ve been around for a while but clearly were taken at around the same time. The footage was upscaled a little on export from the editing software I used to clip irrelevant parts from. Hope this clarifies – enjoy!" |
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| ▲ | pimlottc 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| People have a lot of misconceptions about the pre-internet era. The past was plenty sophisticated, it just wasn't /digital/. We certainly had things like high resolution video (on analog film) and novelty tee shirts with fun fonts (laid out manually in fixed sizes). There was just more manual work involved in creating, duplicating and distributing these things. |
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| ▲ | robeastham 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'd find it easier to believe this comment is AI generated, given that the account is only 53 minutes old. The text on the t-shirt looks totally normal to me. The fact that this blogger, whose blog I'm reading for the first time today, has been posting archive footage and imagery, using a pretty similar format, from the same factory since at least 2019 (https://arcadeblogger.com/2019/12/26/atari-coin-op-archive-f...), and also the fact that the new post is his first blog post in 18th months, makes me think it's highly unlikely that this the post AI generated in any way. |
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| ▲ | iwanttocomment 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It totally would have been normal to have a custom shirt like that back in the day. I had a few. In the late 70s and early 80s, there were custom "iron on" T-Shirt shops in most malls. They would have a wall of larger iron-on decals, primarily logos of sports teams and rock bands, but they also had custom letters, usually in the Cooper typeface. You'd tell them what you wanted, the size and color of your shirt and lettering, and they'd go in the back room and iron what you wanted on your new shirt for a few dollars. This was especially popular with youth sports teams in lieu of professional uniforms, families who wanted to match for a big trip (often with custom names like this), and, as you can see here, jokey custom workplace team shirts. If you watch a late-70s or early-80s episode of The Price is Right, you'll almost certainly see contestants or audience members in these custom iron-on shirts - same font, same slightly disjointed look. The left-hand text on Dave Compton's shirt is slightly blurry and unreadable given the resolution, not garbled. But it's not some AI nonsense. DAVE COMPTON (King?) OF PACKERS (He'll?) PUT IT IN ANY BOX This isn't just a rah-rah team spirit shirt or something obscure, it's a peculiarly '70s innuendo combining thoughts about his job... and his sexual prowess. Sure, that kind of shirt would cause a modern workplace to, uh, send him packing. As they say, it was a different time. Here's a thread on Reddit about one of those mall custom iron-on t-shirt shops: https://www.reddit.com/r/70sdesign/comments/hf6f0q/tshirt_ir... |
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| ▲ | koz1000 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | As they say, it was a different time. I'm friends with someone that worked at Atari around that era and he'll be the first to tell you it was a very loose atmosphere there. | |
| ▲ | kwertyoowiyop 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It seems like the kind of thing you’d get at a company party then, say for meeting a milestone. |
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| ▲ | LocalH 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I don't think so. Perhaps AI-upscaled? The footage looks legit and would track with the tube cameras that would have likely been used at that time. Although it sucks that it's deinterlaced to 30fps. Video like this really needs to be preserved without immediately throwing out half of the motion |
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| ▲ | scherlock 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, this doesn't look like AI generated. It was probably filmed on super 8 film stock. The clothing, hair cuts, manufacturing process all scream early 80s. I could see a cheap restoration introduction artifacts as a more likely reason for the look. | | |
| ▲ | LocalH an hour ago | parent [-] | | It looks more like video to me, honestly. It appears to be a smooth 30fps rather than the 18fps I'd expect from Super 8. There are also telltale stair-stepped sloped lines that demonstrate the effect of the deinterlacing. There did exist luggable 3/4" U-Matic recorders which I'd have to imagine CBS would have been using in 1980. |
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| ▲ | sam345 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I agree with the normalcy comment re screen printing. But the video does seem too high resolution from what I would expect. And why doesn't author discoose the source or a reason video was taken. Odd that there's very little chatter between employees but they were in front of a camera. Otherwise very interesting video. We loved battlezone.Way cooler than any other game at the time. |
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| ▲ | kwertyoowiyop 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It seems exactly like what you’d get from a decent “prosumer” video camera then. | |
| ▲ | Forgeties79 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > But the video does seem too high resolution from what I would expect. Completely depends on what they were shooting on, the state of the media, the scanning methods used, any post-processing, etc. At first glance this does not look AI generated to me but hey, could be wrong |
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| ▲ | coldpie 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I don't think that's likely, claiming forged historical footage is real would be a very stupid way to torch one's reputation in a niche field. But it is a bit concerning that the author doesn't declare the source of the video. Especially since they're claiming it hasn't been put online before. |
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| ▲ | FrontierProject 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This site has become completly insufferable with the incessant AI accusations IN EVERY SINGLE THREAD, often over the most benign posts. |
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| ▲ | dontwannahearit 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I think the fact that this happens on HN, where the users are generally more tech-savvy is signaling that trust in media in the online age is in severe decline. As AI gets better (and there seems no reason to believe it won't for video production) believing what you see online (or on the TV, which already tends to source video for some events from phone footage) will no longer really be a thing. We have been in a sort of post-truth world for some time but this is a whole new level. Maybe we will go back to newspapers? Physical print can't be switched on you 1984 (the book) style and is delayed enough for there to be some fact checking. Definitely living in interesting times. | | |
| ▲ | dylan604 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | The fact that it was a brand new account just means HN is susceptible to bot accounts with these tech savvy people using AI to make those bots. When the AI accusations are from new accounts like this, I don't think it speaks too much about HN comments as the GP thinks. Not being able to understand that the account is new doesn't say much about the GP either |
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| ▲ | jeffbee 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Having some shirts screen-printed for your employees strikes me as a totally normal workplace behavior. |