Serious question: why?

Most people I know who object to full-body millimeter-wave scanners either do so on pseudoscientific health claims, or “philosophical” anti-scanner objections that are structurally the same genre as sovereign-citizen or First-Amendment-auditor thinking.

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wpm 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I should not need to show an anonymous TSA agent my genitals, even if they are in black and white on some monitor theyre viewing in some back room, to get on a plane.

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hackyhacky an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> I should not need to show an anonymous TSA agent my genitals

Unless you want to!

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tkuraku 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

At least currently the images are never seen by a person and are deleted after ATR.

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WaxProlix 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sure thing, and my Facebook account was hard deleted when I asked them to.

	▲	its_magic an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Are you implying that Mark Zuckerberg is a liar, sir?

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deaux an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

You'll need to add a /s, else most here won't realize you're being sarcastic.

You are, right?

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AngryData 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I could ask the same serious question, why should I have to? There is zero reason to suspect me of being a suicidal maniac. Should we have such scanners to walk into a busy store or bus or subway system? Why don't private pilots and passengers have such screenings?

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prashantsengar an hour ago | parent [-]

Tangential: Here in India we have security guards with hand-held metal detectors in malls, railway stations, and urban transit rails (metro) stations.

The first time I visited a different country I was surprised to see my friend accompany me to the check-in counter and even further to drop me off. In India they wouldn't let you enter the airport if your flight doesn't depart soon enough.

	▲	AngryData 23 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I don't think anyone in the US really cares about metal detectors, humans don't naturally contain metal and it is done completely hands off with no extra visual or biometric information or saved data. Plenty of people in this thread who opted out of other security measures still walked through a metal detector without any special note. Court houses and police stations have often have metal detectors that even a Senator or President would have to walk through. The same cannot be said of direct imaging of your body though or facial recognition or anything. If you wouldn't put your children through the process to go into school each day then it seems completely bonkers to require it for any form of mass transit.

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baubino 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There are legit health reasons to opt out of the scanner. I know because I have one of those conditions and have never been through the scanner.

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hackyhacky an hour ago | parent | next [-]

That's fine, but you don't need a health condition, legit or otherwise, to opt out. It's enough to say "I would like to opt out."

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bitexploder an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Millimeter wave scanners have a health exemption? Like because it would always detect something on your body?

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avalys 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What is an example of such a condition?

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jacquesm an hour ago | parent [-]

Pacemaker, pregnancy, probably others.

	▲	OneDeuxTriSeiGo 16 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Studies have all come out clean on pacemakers and mmWave. No detectable interference in the hardware or on an EKG while in a mmWave scanner. I could imagine other conditions potentially but pacemakers have been ruled a non issue for mmWave by academic studies (albeit I can understand still exercising caution despite that).

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jMyles an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

To me it's just a vote against the profiteers who make those machines.

Also I kinda like the process better; the pat-down is nothin', and you can a full table to yourself to recombobulate.

> First-Amendment-auditor thinking.

Uhhh, I like that kind of thinking. Is there something wrong with first amendment auditors now?!

	▲	zoklet-enjoyer an hour ago \| parent [-]
		First Amendment auditors have usually been attention seeking individuals making click bait YouTube videos. It's been interesting seeing the transformation from that to what we're seeing with people monitoring ICE.