I am only guessing but I'd be surprised if it was a money grab. My instinct is that it's a way of highlighting RealID citizenship verification.

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deepsun 4 hours ago | parent [-]

RealID is unrelated to citizenship.

It's a proof of an address, akin to soviet-style "propiska", which was very important and hard to get without (it also affected ownership/inheritance).

What's more fun is that even though they accept different types of residence, they mostly trust utility bills -- but to set up utilities on your name even for your personal home utility company will ask a lot of documents, including credit score checks.

I personally felt that it's utility companies who do the heavy proof checking, not DMVs.

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BryantD a minute ago | parent | next [-]

Citizenship or lawful status, sorry! And you’re right.

But it’s totemic when you dig into conspiracy theories about undocumented immigrants voting. RealID comes up a lot.

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tavavex 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think the comparison to the propiska system is incorrect. This Soviet system heavily controlled internal migration and was what ultimately dictated where someone was permitted to live. You couldn't relocate without one, and having this permission was tied to all sorts of local services. This system anchored people to where they were, and usually barred them from moving unless they had a good reason to.

The US currently has freedom of movement. You don't need the government's permission to live somewhere or to move somewhere else. An ID with your address listed isn't propiska. At best, you could compare it to the 'internal passport' that the USSR and most post-Soviet countries had, which acted as a comprehensive identity document and was the ancestor to modern national ID cards that are used in many countries.

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raw_anon_1111 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My passport card is RealID compliant and doesn’t have my address anywhere on it.

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paxys an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Real ID/Drivers License being a proof of address is laughable. In my state (NY) they accept the following as proof of address for getting a new Real ID:

- Bank statement

- Pay stub

- Utility bill

- Any other state ID with the same last name, which I can claim is my parent or spouse.

I can change my mailing address on any of them with a few clicks online, no actual verification needed.

What they do NOT accept as proof of address:

- My passport

How does that make any sense?

	▲	hackyhacky an hour ago \| parent [-]
		> What they do NOT accept as proof of address: > - My passport > How does that make any sense? It makes sense because, if you look closely, you will see that your passport does not indicate your address.

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jacobgkau 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's hardly proof of address. At best, I'd say it's proof of state residency.

I've moved several times since getting my Colorado driver's license (a REAL ID). Technically, you are supposed to submit a change-of-address form to the DMV online within 30 days of moving. They don't send you a new card when you do that; the official procedure is to stick a piece of paper with your new address written on it to your existing ID yourself, and then just wait until your next renewal to actually get a card with the new address on it. The change of address form does not require utility bills or any other proof of the new address-- that's only required when you initially get the driver's license.

	▲	deepsun 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I certainly got a new plastic ID card within 2 weeks after filing the change-of-address form on DMV website, with a new address on it. They sent it to the new address. But mine was not RealID compliant (nor before nor after).