In the USA it is possible to fly without an ID?

OkayPhysicist 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, because the federal government can't assume that everyone has an ID, since they don't issue a universal ID. Any attempt to fix the fact that Americans don't have universal federal identification has met stiff resistance from a variety of angles, from privacy proponents to religious nuts who think universal identification is the mark of the beast.

It ties into why we still have to register for the draft (despite not having a draft since the 70s, and being no closer to instituting one than any other western country), and why our best form of universal identification (the Social Security card) is a scrap of cardstock with the words "not to be used for identification" written on it.

So, there's no universal ID, it's illegal to mandate people have ID, and freedom of movement within the United States has been routinely upheld as a core freedom. Thus, no ID required for domestic flights.

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booleandilemma 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It feels to me like the more into the future we get the more backwards these policies seem. Bring on the national ID, I say.

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aboardRat4 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>Yes, because the federal government can't assume that everyone has an ID

But this does not have to be a federal ID. Could be just any ID.

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Izikiel43 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Yes, because the federal government can't assume that everyone has an ID, since they don't issue a universal ID.

I'm from a 3rd world country and we have a national id, the usa is weird in the strangest things.

	▲	OkayPhysicist 5 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		It's a deep-seated cultural paranoia that the federal government is out to get us. Initially, the US tried to be a confederation like the EU or Canada, but it turned out that we needed slightly more federal power than that to stay as a unified country. But the tension between "loose coalition of independent states" and "unified government that grants some powers to the states" is a pretty fundamental theme throughout US politics.
	▲	carefulfungi 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Among the man weird corners of US national ID politics, is the set of Americans who think a national ID is an unforgivable invasion of liberty but that an ID should be required to vote.
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sorahn an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It is, but it’s difficult. I am down visiting New Zealand and 3 times I have flown domestically here and there no ID check. I buy a ticket online, check in online, and scan a barcode at the gate. Is New Zealand an exception, or do a lot of countries not require an ID for domestic flights, and the US is the exception?

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II2II 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A lot of people are making general statements, and I'm not sure how valid they are. For example, in my neck of the woods (Canada), I have flown without ID and without passing through security. I would be surprised if the same wasn't true in the US. What I left out: the flights weren't through an international airport and didn't connect to an international airport. Same airport, different flight (one that did connect to an international airport) and passing through security was a requirement. In that case, as well as domestic flights through international airports, ID checks were the domain of the airline.

	▲	jacobgkau 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		We do have smaller regional airports in the US, but those smaller airports do still have TSA-staffed security if they serve commercial flights. The TSA considered eliminating security at those smaller domestic-only airports back in 2018, but after it hit the media, they reversed course on it. The only exception would be airports solely for things other than commercial flights, like hobbyist pilots/flight schools where people are flying their own planes, or airports serving only government/medical/whatever "essential" traffic. Airports that don't have TSA-staffed security are still under TSA jurisdiction, and have to pass regular inspections by TSA to ensure their own security's at a sufficient level.

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StillBored 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There are whole catagories of people without "ID" as such, like say underage children or people unable to drive. ID's in the USA have traditionally been either drivers licenses or passports. Many states have added non-drivers license IDs for handicapped, elderly, etc, but AFAIK they aren't particularly popular since those catagories of people don't tend to need them until they suddenly find themselves in a situation needing one.

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47282847 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

EU technically doesn’t require government-issued ID to fly either. They often don’t check for ID at all, and in cases where they do, legally any card with your name and photo on it would work for this „identification“. EU generally doesn’t legally require you to carry ID - but they can and will hassle you more and more if you don’t.

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causalmodels 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I had a friend who flew out of SFO without an ID for many years without much issue. It was much more difficult for them to get back.

	▲	hackingonempty an hour ago \| parent [-]
		SFO is one of the few international airports with private security instead of TSA.

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wmf 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes.

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arealaccount 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If you lost your ID while traveling, what would another option be?

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aboardRat4 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Usually you go to either a police station or an embassy and receive a temporary permit that has a validity of one week, just enough to get to the place of registration and re-issue your ID.

	▲	adastra22 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		...how? California doesn't have an embassy in New York.