Do you genuinely not think that "Elon" (xAI) is player in the AI space?

You don't have to think they have the best models of course, but they are clearly a very significant, and some might argue, leading player in the AI race.

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paxys 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> and some might argue, leading player in the AI race

What is this argument exactly? What are they leading?

	▲	johnsmith1840 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It is a real model, real datacenters, and deployed heavily on their social media platform. That's the full stack? Only other player that vertically setup is facebook, google and microsoft.

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CryptoBanker 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

xAI’s models are really not pioneering at all. They weren’t the first to do MoE. Not the first to do open weighting, not the first to have memory or multi-modal vision.

So no, I wouldn’t say Elon is a major player in the AI space. People use his models because they are cheap and are willing to undress people’s photos.

	▲	tacoooooooo 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		saying they aren't pioneering is very different than saying they aren't a major player in the space. There're only like 5-7 players with a foundational model that they can serve at scale. xAI is one of them