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TehCorwiz 8 hours ago

Hey now. Huperliop was designed to scuttle California’s light rail project. Which it did. Mission accomplished.

ddtaylor 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Still failed and missed every projection. I think he said we would be on Mars too?

WatchDog 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think you mean "California High-Speed Rail", not light rail.

Light rail, generally refers to urban rail, "trams".

jujube3 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

California's light rail still exists, as does California High-Speed Rail, which is not light rail.

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jdminhbg 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is the funniest conspiracy theory.

jrflowers 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It’s not really so much a conspiracy theory as a thing that he outright said.

https://www.jalopnik.com/did-musk-propose-hyperloop-to-stop-...

jdminhbg 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

He can take out a full page Wall Street Journal ad tomorrow that says “I created hyperloop to kill CA HSR” and it will have no effect on the fact that CA HSR’s failure is 100% the fault of CA’s own dysfunction.

ralfd 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That link denies the conspiracy theory?

> “Or did he just have an idea and blurt it out," I asked Vance. > "I'm 99.9-percent sure it's the latter," Vance tells me.

Also that to scapegoat Musk for killing the California train when California was perfectly able to kill it itself:

> Vance then brought up a valid point: "In all this time we've been talking about high-speed rail, there's still almost none that's built....

jrflowers 4 hours ago | parent [-]

There is no conspiracy theory, that aside the link does not indicate that there is one? “Vaguely accurate” does not mean “untrue”, and Vance is clear that he is talking about his personal interpretation of what Elon Musk is documented to have said, which he does not refute.

I like the idea that “he didn’t say that” and “he did say that but a different guy feels like he probably meant something else” are so obviously equivalent that skepticism of that notion constitutes a ‘conspiracy theory’.

That aside I like that the guy whose opinion should be treated as indisputable fact said that he thinks that there hasn’t been any high speed rail built globally in the past decade, which is not even remotely true. Obviously if he meant to say in the US he would have said so, since his next sentence was praise of Musk’s world-wide achievements.

I suppose it’s possible that Vance either doesn’t know anything about high speed rail or was in such a rush to extoll the virtues of the CEO of Tesla that he just sort of blurted something out to make Musk look good?

ralfd 41 minutes ago | parent [-]

> “Vaguely accurate” does not mean “untrue”

The full quote is “vaguely accurate but a disingenuous take”. And “Disingenuous” means “misleading/dishonest/untruthful/insincere/unfair”.

> Obviously if he meant to say in the US he would have said so

Come on, from the context it is clear that Vance means the US and specifically California. He also says “we” in the sentence “In all this time we've been talking about high-speed rail” and does not mean Chinese/Japanese/French having this discussion.

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adastra22 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What are you talking about?