I think he will spin Tesla off since electrification and autonomy are no longer cool (he can’t build good quality cars or reliable FSD)

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crote 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Haven't you heard? Tesla is pivoting to building humanoid robots instead. They haven't sold a single one, but it toootally warrants retooling their car factories, pinky promise!

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iknowstuff 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

FSD is incredibly reliable. Build quality of US built cars is middle of the pack, Europe/China built Teslas are top of the pack.

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mcmcmc 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Incredible shilling, bravo

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dgxyz 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Oh c'mon now. Damn model 3 and model S I have driven were considerably lower quality interiors than an ass end Citroen or Fiat. The Model S, a 2023 model the doors didn't even fit properly. And that was all Europe.

As for FSD, nope. Unless you redefine the word reliable.

Edit: I owned a 2018 Model S as well. Literally the worst fucking car I have ever owned or driven.

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iknowstuff 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I disagree. Model 3 has soft touch everywhere. Freaking bmw 3 series has plastic on most frequently touched bits.

Since you are in europe you have no idea how good fsd is.

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dgxyz 5 hours ago | parent [-]

BMW actually has a reasonable control surface though, not a grand user interface experiment by some crack heads.

As I'm in Europe I just get trains.

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iknowstuff 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The bmw interface is the actual fucking joke. Everything you need on Teslas is accessible from the steering wheel in addition to the touchscreen.

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dgxyz 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Apart from the speedometer which is outside your safe FOV in the Tesla.

And everything in the BMW you should be dealing with when driving is on or around the steering wheel.

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iknowstuff 5 hours ago | parent [-]

That’s not how human eyes work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vision_span

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dgxyz 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> That’s not how human eyes work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vision_span

The article you linked agrees with me. Greatest resolution in the macula which is a span of approximately 6 degrees from the centre.

Sigh...

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iknowstuff 5 hours ago | parent [-]

No, it agrees with me. You’re NEVER looking at the road and reading your speed at the same time.

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mylies43 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Unless you have a modern car with a HUD

	▲	iknowstuff 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Unless it’s obstructing the view of the road, not really

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giancarlostoro 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> BMW actually has a reasonable control surface though, not a grand user interface experiment by some crack heads.

Really? It's one thing to hate Elon Musk, but you're talking about a lot of brilliant engineers who worked on these cars, everything from the components to the software. It's uneeded low blow just because you don't like Elon Musk.

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rjmunro 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The UX is a mess. Why does the car always label the trunk as open rather than have a button that I press to open it?

Why does cruise control sometimes change to the speed limit and sometimes not?

Why does auto lane change sometimes need me to start the manoeuvre and sometimes not? If I guess wrong and start the lane change myself, all autopilot just disengages suddenly.

I have to proove that I'm holding the wheel by wiggling it from time to time, but if I accidentally wiggle too hard it disengages. Why not have a sensor or use the cameras to detect if I'm holding the wheel?

My son didn't shut the back door properly. I started driving and the car started binging. It didn't tell me why it was binging until I put it in park and looked at the pretty 3d representation of the car, then noticed that the door was open.

Maybe if I drove more regularly I would get used to all this stuff. The car was borrowed and I gave it back.

	▲	iknowstuff an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I’m glad you found a place to get these complaints off your chest, but these are kind of hilarious. the button says “open trunk”. It’s a verb. If this is your complaint then lmao have you not seen what other OEM software looks like? Door open doesn’t just ding, it shows a warning with plain english explanation and an icon. For the rest of your complaints you can mostly thank the overzealous EU/unece regulation which limits steering torque and requires intervention. FSD has none of those concerns, it just drives and does not require torque on the wheel.

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garyfirestorm 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Looking at cyber truck I can’t help but disagree with you. Absolutely questionable design choices. From top to bottom.

	▲	giancarlostoro an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		So the Cybertruk is one vehicle out of an entire line up, I get not liking one model but what's that go to do with the entire line up?
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