arcologies1985 9 hours ago

Probably because "Windows Modern Standby" makes laptops unusable by turning them on in your backpack and cooking them.

m-schuetz 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I still don't understand how Microsoft lets standby remain broken. I can never leave the PC in my bedroom ij standby because it will randomly wake up and blast the coolers.

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cosmic_cheese 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Probably because the quality of PC BIOS/firmware is generally abysmal and getting vendors to follow spec is like herding cats.

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beart 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This particular issue really hits a nerve.

Consumers _do not care_ if it is the firmware or Windows.

Dell was one of the earlier brands, and biggest, to suffer these standby problems. Dell has blamed MS and MS has blamed Dell, and neither has been in any hurry to resolve the issues.

I still can't put my laptop in my backpack without shutting it down, and as a hybrid worker, having to tear down and spin up my application context every other day is not productive.

	▲	cosmic_cheese 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yeah I hear you. One of the reasons I’m still inclined towards Mac laptops for “daily drivers” is precisely because it’s disruptive to have to do a full shutdown that obliterates my whole workspace. Other manufacturers can be fine for single-use machines (e.g. a study laptop that only ever has Anki and maybe a browser and music app open), but every step beyond that brings increased friction. Maybe the most tragic part is that this drags down Linux and plagues it with these hardware rooted sleep issues too.

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m-schuetz 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sleep used to work perfectly fine up until, I don't know, 10 years ago. I doubt hardware/firmware/BIOS got worse since then, this is 100% a Microsoft problem.

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Nextgrid 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

S3 sleep was a solved problem until Microsoft decided that your laptop must download ads^Wsuggestions in the background and deprecated it. On firmwares still supporting S3, it works perfectly.

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mrweasel 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Sadly even if Microsoft had a few lineups of laptops that they'd use internally and recommend, companies would still get the shitty ones, if it saves them $10 per device.

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frozenlettuce 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I remember having this issue back in 2014... maybe the tech is not there yet.

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taude 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Haa, amazing. I had this happen to TWO Dell XPS for me, before finally switching over to Mac.

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kibwen 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

To be fair, this was also my experience with Macbooks. This "smart sleep" from modern OS manufacturers is the dumbest shit ever, please just give me a hibernate option.

	▲	einsteinx2 7 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I had the issue with Intel MacBooks but never once with any M-series model.
	▲	cosmic_cheese 8 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I used to have trouble with sleep on M-series macs on occasion, but after turning off wake on LAN they’ve all slept exactly as expected for the past several years.