> running it scares the crap out of me

A hundred times this. It's fine until it isn't. And jacking these Claws into shared conversation spaces is quite literally pushing the afterburners to max on simonw's lethal trifecta. A lot of people are going to get burned hard by this. Every blackhat is eyes-on this right now - we're literally giving a drunk robot the keys to everything.

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anabis 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Maybe. People have run wildly insecure phpBB and Wordpress plugins, so maybe its the same cycle again.

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egeozcan 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Those usually didn't have keys to all your data. Worst case, you lost your server, and perhaps you hosted your emails there too? Very bad, but nothing compared to the access these clawdbot instances get.

	▲	Terretta 30 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> Those usually didn't have keys to all your data. As a former (bespoke) WP hosting provider, I'd counter those usually did. Not sure I ever met a prospective "online" business customer's build that didn't? They'd put their entire business into WP installs with plugins for everything. Our step one was to turn WP into static site gen and get WP itself behind a firewall and VPN, and even then single tenant only on isolated networks per tenant. To be fair that data wasn't ALL about everyone's PII — until by ~2008 when the Buddy Press craze was hot. And that was much more difficult to keep safe.

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DANmode 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> are running

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TacticalCoder 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I understand that things can go wrong and there can be security issues, but I see at least two other issues:

1. what if, ChadGPT style, ads are added to the answers (like OpenAI said it'd do, hence the new "ChadGPT" name)?

2. what if the current prices really are unsustainable and the thing goes 10x?

Are we living some golden age where we can both query LLMs on the cheap and not get ad-infected answers?

I read several comments in different threads made by people saying: "I use AI because search results are too polluted and the Web is unusable"

And I now do the same:

"Gemini, compare me the HP Z640 and HP Z840 workstations, list the features in a table" / "Find me which Xeon CPU they support, list me the date and price of these CPU when they were new and typical price used now".

How long before I get twelve ads along with paid vendors recommendations?

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spiderice 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> what if the current prices really are unsustainable and the thing goes 10x?

Where does this idea come from? We know how much it costs to run LLMs. It's not like we're waiting to find out. AI companies aren't losing money on API tokens. What could possibly happen to make prices go 10x when they're already running at a profit? Claude Max might be a different story, but AI is going to get cheaper to run. Not randomly 10x for the same models.

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overgard 2 hours ago | parent [-]

From what I've read, every major AI player is losing a (lot) of money on running LLMs, even just with inference. It's hard to say for sure because they don't publish the financials (or if they do, it tends to be obfuscated), but if the screws start being turned on investment dollars they not only have to increase the price of their current offerings (2x cost wouldn't shock me), but some of them also need a (massive) influx of capital to handle things like datacenter build obligations (10s of billions of dollars). So I don't think it's crazy to think that prices might go up quite a bit. We've already seen waves of it, like last summer when Cursor suddenly became a lot more expensive (or less functional, depending on your perspective)

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lemming 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Sam Altman is on record saying that OpenAI is profitable on inference. He might be lying, but it seems an unlikely thing to lie about.

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hyperadvanced an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

This is my understanding as well. If GPT made money the companies that run them would be publicly traded?

Furthermore, companies which are publicly traded show that overall the products are not economical. Meta and MSFT are great examples of this, though they have recently seen opposite sides of investors appraising their results. Notably, OpenAI and MSFT are more closely linked than any other Mag7 companies with an AI startup.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/phoebeliu/2025/11/10/openai-spe...

	▲	fragmede an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Going public is not a trivial thing for a company to do. You may want to bring in additional facts to support your thesis.

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crystaln an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Seems much more likely the cost will go down 99%. With open source models and architectural innovations, something like Claude will run on a local machine for free.

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FuckButtons 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I asked Gemini deep research to project when that will likely happen based on historical precedent. It guessed October 2027.