This is a conclusion that comes with some personal baggage you should identify and consider addressing.

gambiting 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I mean, I think it's cultural. In US it seems like everyone has an iphone, it's almost kinda quirky not to have one. But in some other places, an iPhone is more than your monthly salary - having one is definitely a symbol of status. Less so than it used to be, but it still has that.

	▲	dghlsakjg 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		iPhones in the US have an estimate ~55% market share depending on source. Owning an Android wasn't unusual in the least when I lived there, and appears to be pretty popular. I don't think its unusual that a country with high median income and higher average income will tend to gravitate towards more expensive phones. Given that Apple doesn't make a cheap phone, it kind of follows that wealthier countries will buy more iPhones. Of course the opposite is true as well, In a country where an iPhone is measured in months of salary, they won't sell well, but I'd be willing to bet that Androids in that price tier sell like shit in those countries too. Is it a status symbol? arguably. But it also correlates pretty strongly with median income.
	▲	ohyoutravel 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Fair, but that’s a comment on a US-centric website, run by a US-centric company, in a US-centric industry, on a US-centric medium. So if they didn’t mean US, I think the onus is on them to clarify exactly where this applies.

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PlatoIsADisease 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Admittedly, I hate companies that live off their marketing. Nintendo, Disney, Apple. I hate that these companies can weaponize psychology against humans.

Function > Form.

I think its a Hero Complex, if Jung is correct.

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raw_anon_1111 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes because 60% of US phone buyers buy an iPhone to stand out from the average US phone buyer and they shouldn’t because it doesn’t run local llm’s well?

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shiroiuma 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

That's the least of the problems with using an iPhone.

	▲	raw_anon_1111 9 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		So exactly what problems do most people have with iPhones that could be solved with Android.

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DJBunnies 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Macbooks and iPhones are good devices though, saying this as a primarily linux user.

There is no way a company could exist purely on marketing, Apple backs it up with tech.

	▲	wolvoleo 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Some companies definitely do just exist on marketing. Some clothing brands are objectively overpriced crap and pure wealth signalling. Or something like a juicero. But I agree Apple doesn't even though they've gone into a direction I couldn't follow them in.
	▲	shiroiuma 10 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Not really. They back it up with "good enough tech" that looks pretty and sucks people in with marketing, and then locks them into a closed ecosystem. Admittedly, some of their tech is actually very good (e.g. M-series ARM-based CPUs), but much of it is nothing special, or worse, just copying something else that competitors have been doing for years, presenting it as brand-new, and claiming credit for it. They did this with the always-on screens for phones. My LGs had this many, many years ago. It was so bad that when Apple finally brought it out and acted like they had invented it, coworkers saw my LG and asked if I had gotten the latest iPhone, and I had to point out that it was a 5-year-old LG. And then there's other stuff that Apple has which is just plain bad, but they present as new and wonderful, such as the "island" keyboard.

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anonymars 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'd almost say most companies live or die off their marketing. One could argue that understanding your customer as well as or better than they understand themselves is a strength.

To wit, some people do value form over function. Some people do prefer a safe, curated walled garden.

I am not among them--I say this as someone who cannot stand using most Apple products for more than a minute. But I respect what they offer(ed) and for some people even recommended them. (Now I'm less sure because it seems like everything tech has gone to shit, but I can't tell if that's just "old man yells at cloud" or what)

Ideally there would be enough competition for us all to find what we're looking for. I think anticompetitive behavior is a worse sin

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kulahan 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

All three of these companies are supremely dedicated to the customer experience. It’s a weird thing to be annoyed at. Ninty is the only company really experimenting with gaming hardware. Disney parks are a thesis on hiding the “behind the scenes” stuff perfectly. Apple does its best to make things just kinda work well, and if you’re in their ecosystem fully, it usually does work out.

Not everyone cares for the most capable device on the planet. Sometimes people just want a pretty familiar and easy experience. I haven’t used my phone for anything more than browsing the web and texting in ages. I absolutely don’t care about whatever function you think I’m missing due to Apple, honestly.

As a side note, the fathers of Psychology were absolutely terrible scientists. The entire field almost failed because they took it so far into pseudo-science land. Of course Jung isn’t correct.