Like I said, I can't tell who is attacking who. Archive.is has more money, resources and ASN's than Akamai so surely they can mitigate anything anyone can throw at them. A little forum trying to respond in kind can't really be much of a threat. Archive could just tell their controlling nodes to ignore any requests to mirror the forum which means there is a lot more to this than any of us are seeing. That is why I would like to see the admin of Archive respond for both sides of the story.

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deathanatos 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Archive.is has more money, resources and ASN's than Akamai so surely they can mitigate anything anyone can throw at them.

This statement makes me think you're misunderstanding the person above you.

They're saying this blog author, gyrovague, is doxing¹ Archive.is. I am wondering if you are misreading that as DoSing. To "dox" is to reveal the identity of, typically for purposes of harassment. To "DoS" is to spam with requests. Archive.is is not being spammed with requests, nor do I see anyone here suggesting they are except here: "resources and ASN's … mitigate anything anyone can throw at them" … that seems to indicate you're (mis)reading it as "DoS"?

(I.e., gyrovague is doxing the Archive.today owner¹. Archive.today is, in return, DoSing gyrovague.)

(¹I'm not trying to comment on whether that term is being appropriately applied here, or not.)

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JasonADrury 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't think there's any dispute on what the story is. The blog post here contains the facts, and a rather clumsy attempt by Gyrovague to justify his bid to dox the operator of archive.today.

> Archive.is has more money, resources and ASN's than Akamai

I assume this is a joke, but Archive.is is a shoestring operation funded through donations.

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dang 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Hey guys - you both obviously know a ton more about this than I do, but this is the point at which the thread went off the rails. I get that you disagree with each other and that's fine, but please stay within the site guidelines while doing so: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

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Bender 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I assume this is a joke, but Archive.is is a shoestring operation funded through donations.

I am certain they would like people to think that. They have more IPv4 addresses under more ASN's than Akamai control which anyone who has tried to block them would know. Their controlling ASN's are in the Russian Federation which they make no attempt to hide at least for now and why I must assume they are fine with people discussing it. The GDP of the Russian Federation is somewhere north of 2 trillion dollars. Their nodes both in Russia and spread all around the world would not be permitted by Russia to mirror random sites without authorization to do so. One in or from Russia would not defy Russian leadership for very long.

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JasonADrury 2 days ago | parent [-]

Yes, it's apparently hosted behind some fastflux setup. That's neither new nor special, nor is it particularly expensive. Such setups are offered on various forums starting from a few hundred dollars a month.

> Their nodes both in Russia and spread all around the world would not be permitted by Russia to mirror random sites without authorization to do so.

This is simply not true. You can absolutely run a website like this in Russia without any authorization. Who would you even ask? The whole idea is bizarre.

	▲	Bender 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		You can take what I said out of context. Apparently OSINT are on it, not my problem.