None. Almost by definition, the folks who satisfy themselves waxing online drive complacency away from real action. That doesn’t, however, mean they aren’t self-importantly organized to later support an organized movement.

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bluescrn 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Do you think the current anti-ICE movement would have happened without social media? Or Jan 6th, or all the Palestine protests, or even the election of Trump?

The US has it's first amendment protections, but other countries seem rather more willing to crack down on online speech.

	▲	JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> Do you think the current anti-ICE movement would have happened without social media? Yes. There is a reason Minnesota is effectively resisting in a way Los Angeles failed to. Once you have a movement, social media mobilizes. But if you’re building a movement, you need footwork and commitment. Not profiteers turning your cause into clicks. > Or Jan 6th, or all the Palestine protests Case in point. Support for each of their underlying causes dipped with notoriety around their online activity. If you want to drain a movement of effective energy, distract it online from its streets.
	▲	dmurray 12 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Why not? The Vietnam War drew plenty of organised protesters. The details would be different, but big popular actions can still be coordinated through traditional media and word of mouth. Lack of social media didn't prevent the French Revolution.