| ▲ | jtbayly 14 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
modeless linked to this article earlier today: https://james.darpinian.com/blog/apple-imessage-encryption/ My current understanding of the facts: 1. Google defaults to encrypted backups of messages, as well as e2e encryption of messages. 2. Apple defaults only to e2ee of messages, leaving a massive backdoor. 3. Closing that backdoor is possible for the consumer, by enabling ADP (advanced data protection) on your device. However, this makes no difference, since 99.9% of the people you communicate will not close the backdoor. Thus, the only way to live is to assume that all the messages you send via iMessage will always be accessible to Apple, no matter what you do. It's not like overall I think Google is better for privacy than Apple, but this choice by Apple is really at odds with their supposed emphasis on privacy. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | indemnity 12 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Enabling ADP breaks all kinds of things in Apple’s ecosystem subtly with incredibly arcane errors. I was unable to use Apple Fitness+ on my TV due to it telling me my Watch couldn’t pair with the TV. The problem went away when turning off ADP. To turn off ADP required opening a support case with Apple which took three weeks to resolve, before this an attempt to turn off would just fail with no detailed error. Other things like iCloud on the web were disabled with ADP on. I just wanted encrypted backups, that was it. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | miki123211 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Apple's other emphasis is customer experience, and there are more "I forgot my code, help me recover my stuff" people than you can imagine. It would be bad PR for Apple if everybody constantly kept losing their messages because they had no way to get back into their account. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | dd8601fn 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
ADP isn’t the default, and almost nobody who isn’t a journalist/activist/potential target turns it on, because of the serious (potentially destructive) consequences. How does Google manage this, such every normie on earth isn’t freaking out? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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