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beastman82 13 hours ago

I have had two for 10 years and have no complaints whatsoever

akersten 13 hours ago | parent [-]

The lack of hardware support for a few modern codecs is a pretty big complaint from me, but nothing else out there is decent :/

safeimp 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It depends what you're looking for. In the AV enthusiast circles a lot of people flock towards the Ugoos AM6B Plus (with CoreELEC).

It is one of the only devices (alongside Oppo clones) that can play Dolby Vision Profile 7 FEL (Full Enhancement Layer) with 100% accuracy. The Shield can play P7, but it ignores the FEL data; the Ugoos actually processes it.

That said, people don’t generally use Android on it, instead you boot to CoreELEC from an SD card and use Kodi.

compsciphd 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I have an am6b+ but in reality the shield is a much nicer device to use if one wants to use anything outside of their local media.

I actually wish we could run android in a container on the CoreELEC side and switch back and forth between Kodi and the android UI/apps (without needing a reboot, and having a better managed android environment than the provided one).

aaravchen 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The unfortunate part is that CoreELEC only works when you get all your content from a locally attached disk. You can't even really stream it from your beefy NAS/server, and you definitely can't use any streaming services.

I'm constantly surprised how many people are in that narrow category of just dipping thier toe in the water for "self-hosted" content that it's little enough it fits on disk storage you can have in your living room (mine is a half-height server rack in the basement), but also have progressed past thr point of using any streaming services. I guess there are a lot of people without families that also never travel out there.

compsciphd 10 hours ago | parent [-]

I used it with plex (in kodi) just fine. With that said, I'd agree that its mostly for local media (where local can be whatever plex can get to). Outside of plex, either you are using plain kodi or some simple kodi extensions (say youtube) that just aren't as nice to use as their android app equivalents (in regards to streaming services, it does support MLB.TV for those that like baseball, but again, not quite as nice an experience IMO as the android app).

protimewaster 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

CoreELEC is a godsend for FEL compatibility, IMO. With a little luck, you can get a device to do FEL for under $100, and you don't have to deal with some random, poorly maintained Android release that probably won't keep up with security updates, etc.

Hamuko 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The Apple TV's pretty good. I imagine I'd have a hard time switching to a Shield TV unless it gets a CPU bump, whereas Apple still keeps making newer models with modern-ish phone SoCs.

aaravchen 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I've looked at this a few times, and AppleTV actually has pretty poor support unless you're only using a select few streaming services and not streaming any of your own content. Shield performs exponentially better in every way except for the god awful stock interface (and Google data collection vs Apple data collection). The hardware and tvOS still have extremely limited support for most video codecs, no support at all for audio pass thru, and very limited non-stereo audio options. If you want the equivalent of watching on your laptop it's good, but if you have better than stereo speakers, or a 4K TV that supports HDR10+ or Dolby Vision, AppleTV can't compete except for the big name streaming services that have special tvOS privileges/integration.

joney_baloney 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

FWIW, I have no trouble playing any of my alternatively sourced media, 4K Dolby Vision included, using an app called Infuse. Pass-through audio may indeed be an issue for some lossless surround formats, or at least that's what it sounded like the last I looked into it some years ago. I don't have the right room to set up surrounds so it's stereo only over here anyway. But that said I love the app, lovely interface, etc.

zimpenfish 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> a 4K TV that supports HDR10+ or Dolby Vision, AppleTV

You can play HDR10+ 4K on Apple TV using Infuse[0] (and whatever DLNA server you want to stand up with your content.)

[0] Since 2017, apparently.

Hamuko 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I stream all of my own content with an Apple TV and Plex just fine. I don't know what problems you've had there. It even handles exotic stuff like Hi10P h.264.

iJohnDoe 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What makes the Apple TV desirable? It’s $185. Why would I choose it over a Roku $30 or Ultra $80?

x187463 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The rest of these Roku/Amazon/Google devices are full of advertising and underpowered hardware that results in cluttered and laggy interfaces. The Apple TV interface is completely free of advertising, responsive, and easy to navigate.

joney_baloney 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

High end model is $150 (US). Very fast and yes Apple gets some of your info but it's not getting resold to advertisers and 3rd parties. Generally speaking doesn't require adware to keep the price low.

Hamuko 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's a lot faster.