As if the surveillance and regulation by the unelected EU bureaucrats was any better for the European citizens...

Even if you are right and everything is the same regarding surveillance and regulation: there are other important aspects that make the move to move european data out of the US worthwhile.

	▲	barnacs an hour ago \| parent [-]
		> other important aspects like what?

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jeffrallen an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

European citizens have the right to shop around. If they choose a cloud provider from a European country with higher data protection than their home country, they can send a message to their own government.

Swiss data protection law is an example of this. An Italian municipality could choose to use Infomaniak or Exoscale and increase their sovereignty and privacy.

	▲	barnacs an hour ago \| parent [-]
		As a European citizen, I can assure you, my options are getting ever more limited. Several global companies have kicked me off their platforms recently due to all the regulations they can't be bothered with. Those that make an effort to comply are by default required to submit to the EU surveillance system. At the same time, I have no illusions that any of this would somehow protect my data from the NSA and the like. In my view, data can only be protected by its rightful owner. And for that, we need education, not regulation.

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preisschild 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"Unelected EU bureucrats"

Clearly shows you have absolutely zero idea about what you are talking about and just take your talking points from people like Elon Musk

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barnacs 42 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I happen to live in the EU so I may have a slight clue what I'm talking about.

But if you want an authority on the subject, look up Yanis Varoufakis and how sovereignty and democracy worked out for Greece when shit hit the fan.

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blell 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Educate us, tell us when did we vote for the commission and the likes of von der Leyen. (If your answer is "you didn't vote for it, but you voted for someone who voted for someone who voted for it in a secret ballot" I am going to chuckle)

	▲	SkiFire13 a minute ago \| parent \| next [-]
		By that logic the president of the USA is also "not elected"
	▲	sekai 30 minutes ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		> Educate us, tell us when did we vote for the commission and the likes of von der Leyen. (If your answer is "you didn't vote for it, but you voted for someone who voted for someone who voted for it in a secret ballot" I am going to chuckle) Voters place their trust in representatives who then act on their behalf during the EP voting process and other legislative matters, such as electing the President of the European Commission
	▲	casper14 an hour ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Do Americans vote for the supreme court or the chair of the fed?
	▲	raincole an hour ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		And when did Americans vote for the director of FBI? Chair of the Fed? The local judge who can sign a warrant permitting the police to rummage your house?
	▲	smallnix an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Even that would be wrong. Von der Leyen was strong armed into her position by Merkel and the other heads of states, overruling Timmermans nomination.