To use the parlance of this thread: "next" foundation models is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Am I doing this right?

My point is, does Apple have any useful foundation models? Last I checked they made a deal with OpenAI, no wait, now with Google.

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wmf 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Apple does have their own small foundation models but it's not clear they require a lot of GPUs to train.

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consumer451 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Do you mean like OCR in photos? In that case, yes, I didn't think about that. Are there other use cases aside from speach to text in Siri?

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wmf 10 hours ago | parent [-]

I think they are also used for translation, summarization, etc. They're also available to other apps: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/FoundationModels

	▲	consumer451 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Thanks, I am a dumb dumb about Apple, and mobile in general. I should have known this. I really appreciate the reply so that I know it now.

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system2 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I think Apple is waiting for the bubble to deflate, then do something different. And they have the ready to use user base to provide what they can make money from.

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amluto 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If they were taking that approach, they would have absolutely first-class integration between AI tools and user data, complete with proper isolation for security and privacy and convenient ways for users to give agents access to the right things. And they would bide their time for the right models to show up at the right price with the right privacy guarantees.

I see no evidence of this happening.

	▲	irishcoffee 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		As an outsider, the only thing the two of you disagree on is timing. I probably side with the ‘time is running out’ team at the current juncture.

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ymyms 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They apparently are working on and are going to release 2(!) different versions of siri. Idk, that just screams "leadership doesn't know what to do and can't make a tough decision" to me. but who knows? maybe two versions of siri is what people will want.

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consumer451 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Arena mode! Which reply do you prefer? /s

But seriously, would one be for newer phone/tablet models, and one for older?

	▲	pinnochio 11 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It sounds like the first one, based on Gemini, will be more a more limited version of the second ("competitive with Gemini 3"). IDK if the second is also based on Gemini, but I'd be surprised if that weren't the case. Seems like it's more a ramp-up than two completely separate Siri replacements.

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aurareturn 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Apple can make more money from shorting the stock market, including their own stock, if they believe the bubble will deflate.