Successful enough for me and many other people I know. End to end from my house to grocery store, kids schools, friends houses, etc. Multiple times per day for the past year.

It’s not perfect but I’d consider it a smashing success for something I rely on for safely transporting my family every day.

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ErroneousBosh 11 hours ago | parent [-]

I wouldn't feel safe in one. I've seen how they drive, and I've had a brief shot of a car with FSD.

They are not safe and they will never be safe.

	▲	rogerrogerr 9 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> They are not safe Debatable, but you won't be convinced. > they will never be safe. Define safe? Would be interested to see you provide a benchmark that is reasonable, and lock it in now so we can see if this statement is falsified in the future.
	▲	mavhc 10 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		If they're not safe then why does the data show they're safer than humans? Why will they never be safe? Also can you define safe?