Just curious - how does it compare to GLM 4.7? Ever since they gave the $28/year deal, I've been using it for personal projects and am very happy with it (via opencode).

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InsideOutSanta 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There's no comparison. GLM 4.7 is fine and reasonably competent at writing code, but K2.5 is right up there with something like Sonnet 4.5. it's the first time I can use an open-source model and not immediately tell the difference between it and top-end models from Anthropic and OpenAI.

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zeroxfe 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's waaay better than GLM 4.7 (which was the open model I was using earlier)! Kimi was able to quickly and smoothly finish some very complex tasks that GLM completely choked at.

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segmondy 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The old Kimi K2 is better than GLM4.7

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cmrdporcupine 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

From what people say, it's better than GLM 4.7 (and I guess DeepSeek 3.2)

But it's also like... 10x the price per output token on any of the providers I've looked at.

I don't feel it's 10x the value. It's still much cheaper than paying by the token for Sonnet or Opus, but if you have a subscribed plan from the Big 3 (OpenAI, Anthropic, Google) it's much better value for $$.

Comes down to ethical or openness reasons to use it I guess.

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		Exactly. For the price it has to beat Claude and GPT, unless you have budget for both. I just let GLM solve whatever it can and reserve my Claude budget for the rest.

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akudha 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Is the Lite plan enough for your projects?

	▲	BeetleB 9 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Very much so. I'm using it for small personal stuff on my home PC. Nothing grand. Not having to worry about token usage has been great (previously was paying per API use). I haven't stress tested it with anything large. Both at work and home, I don't give much free rein to the AI (e.g. I examine and approve all code changes). Lite plan doesn't have vision, so you cannot copy/paste an image there. But I can always switch models when I need to.